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Are trainers supposed to be harder than the real thing??(11 posts)

Are trainers supposed to be harder than the real thing??taar44
May 26, 2003 11:21 AM
Hello. Just completed my first ride on the cycleops fluid trainer. It was kinda harder than i thought. On the road, i can usually manage a 4 hr ride at an average of about 19MPH. However, on the trainer, i was in pretty much the low gears and i was still finding it kind of hard. I could only manage a 45 min ride. Did i tighten something too much? Thanks.
re: Are trainers supposed to be harder than the real thing??Rich_Racer
May 26, 2003 12:04 PM
Well it totally depends on the trainer you have but I do think they're harder, simply because the resistance means you can never coast - the effort is more constant and therefore more concise. It's also mentally harder too because you're not actually going anywhere! I used to multiply my effort (milage) by 1.5 (the trainer resistance quotient) to make myself feel better!!
re: Are trainers supposed to be harder than the real thing??Horace Greeley
May 26, 2003 1:04 PM
My average speed on the trainer is typically lower, although I usually do hill intervals. I also find that 50 minutes to an hour on the trainer is more of a workout than the same time on the road. Part of it is the ability to coast or pedal easy on downhills, which you can't do on the trainer. I've never gone more than 2 hours on the trainer, although more than 2 hours on the road is typical.
Don't forget the heat factorKerry
May 26, 2003 3:51 PM
What a lot of people seem to ignore is that there is no cooling breeze when on rollers or trainers, and so you've got to deal with heat as well. A good practice is to have a couple of window fans (one on a chair, one hung from the ceiling) going full blast to cool you off. Otherwise, you'll feel like you've been sitting in a sauna, which does make you feel flat but sure isn't exercise. Also, the wind will keep you from soaking everything in sweat. Aside from that, there is only a rough correspondence between trainer/roller effort and road effort and it is not really predictable. Go for time and perceived effort or HR.
fansDougSloan
May 26, 2003 7:24 PM
With this setup, plus a ceiling fan, I hardly drip at all.



Doug
Awesome set up!jtferraro
May 27, 2003 7:21 AM
Is that white fan, towards the rear of the bike, to keep the roller/tire interface cool? Also, are you using that PC based system - the one that measures power?

Thanks,

-Jeff
ComputrainerDougSloan
May 27, 2003 7:26 AM
The small fan is to cool the load generator, which can overheat on big hills.

Here are more pix, if you are interested. http://www.midcalracing.com/ct.htm

Doug
re: Are trainers supposed to be harder than the real thing??Spinchick
May 26, 2003 5:11 PM
I've found it to be harder as well. I figured it had to be the inability to coast, as well as the lack of scenery. I set up a fan right in front of me and put on a cd with some rockin' music. That seems to help. 45 minutes is usually about my max.
re: Are trainers supposed to be harder than the real thing??taar44
May 26, 2003 6:33 PM
Thanks all. I'll set up a fan tomorrow and see if it feels easier.
There may be an adjuster....Ping_Pong
May 27, 2003 4:07 AM
I would also check for an adjuster.
I recently bought a tacx trainer and was finding it hard to get much speed at all, as if I was constantly climbing a hill - until I found the adjuster near the resistance unit. Now I can ride at a nice smooth endurance pace, feeling like I am on the flat.
re: Are trainers supposed to be harder than the real thing??aliensporebomb
May 27, 2003 1:05 PM
I just remember that after four months of nothing but
trainer use and getting on the real road that I felt
like I was ready to shoot into orbit. I'd never been
that strong on the bike that early in the season and it
was well worth it.

The trainer did feel like it took more effort than it did
to ride on the road, maybe that's what made it so amazing
when I did get on the road. Rocket ship!