|How much do they get paid?||byker|
May 26, 2003 9:40 AM
|How much money, on average, does a team domestique make?|
|re: How much do they get paid?||climbo|
May 26, 2003 10:03 AM
|anywhere from $0 to $100,000 depending on who you are, where you ride, what country, which team, how good you are. Nobody knows the average but from reports and info in general Euro pro domestiques are usually making an average salary like any normal job. i.e. about $US 30,000 or so, not much.|
|re: How much do they get paid?||campyfan|
May 26, 2003 7:23 PM
|Yeah, but I'd sure take $30K/year to ride my bike all the time. Hell, I ride now without getting paid!!|
May 26, 2003 7:53 PM
|These are rough times in professional cycling. There are a lot of riders who are just thankful to have a contract for the season.
Get ready for a shock though, starting salaries are barely above the poverty level.
Here are the official salaries negotiated by the pro riders' association CPA and the association of professional teams AIGCP. (Figures from Radsportnews.com - a Euro is worth slightly more than a Dollar right now.)
For the 2003 seasons, neopros earn at least 15,000 Euros. After 2004 the minimum salary will be 20,000 Euros.
For all other riders, the minimum is 18,000 Euros (23,000 Euros after 2004).
I, for one, simply can't believe that riders can stay motivated to ride with such miserable compensation. I suppose it's the "hoop dream" phenomenon -- everyone is hoping that after they've paid their dues and scored some wins that the cash will start rolling in.
|What is often considered a middle class sport in the US,||djg|
May 27, 2003 6:34 AM
|has traditionally been considered a blue collar sport in Europe. So apart from love of the sport, the attraction is often (a) some hope of being a super-domestique (higher salary), if not a star and, probably more significant, (b) a limited range of alternatives. There are not that many euro domestiques who attended a day of university, much less punted medical school to ride (a la Vaughters?).|
|15k isn't even blue collar, you'd earn more on welfare...||BergMann|
May 27, 2003 8:01 AM
|The European work force, particularly it's service industry and blue-collar workers, is trained primarily at trade-schools, not universities.
Although enrollments are steadily increasing, most continental universities don't offer an equivalent of a bachelor's degree, so they are much more like going to grad. school than attending an American undergrad institution.
Granted that there are provincial parts of Portugal or Italy where a rock-bottom standard of living combined with the relative social prestige of being a professional cyclist would make a 15k neo-pro contract attractive to a young rider, but in the wealthier welfare states of the north like Holland, Belgium, & Germany you can easily "earn" more than 15k by going on the dole, not to mention to trade school.
|Yeah, I'd like to get...||Dwayne Barry|
May 27, 2003 2:53 AM
|paid to just ride my bike as well, but being a pro racer is not "just riding a bike" especially if you're at the bottom of the pro pecking order!
Try making peanuts to suffer like a dog and more often than not with nothing to show for it. My friend just got done driving the medical car at the Tour of Georgia. Good stories about division III "pros" (who I don't think often even get paid) riding in their own feces all day because they have diarrhea. Think about that the next time you think pros get paid to just ride their bikes.
May 27, 2003 9:16 AM
Drop to the back of the pack to get 6 water bottles and food for your teammates two or three times during a 100mile race averaging over 30mph?
Go off to cover a break that you know will fail because your team director sent you even though you are ill or injured?
Drop way back to pace your team's #1 guy back to the pack after a mechanical only to see him dropped on the next climb?
Give up on a potentially successful break because you are "not supposed to win?"
None of those things seem worth $30k/year to me. I have nothing but admiration and respect for all those guys.