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Tire won't go on.(6 posts)

Tire won't go on.Allen az
May 25, 2003 11:31 AM
You guys know of any "tricks"? Tire levers couldn't do it.

(Yes, theyr'e the right size).
Vredestein Fortezza's

Thanks for anything,
Allen
re: Tire won't go on.arderra
May 25, 2003 12:18 PM
Allen,
Vredestein are a nightmare to go on. Try "talcum" powder (sorry, can't spell!!!) U know the stuff u put on after a bath!!

That might work
Arderra
StrangeAtombomber
May 25, 2003 1:06 PM
I just roll them on. I don't use levers to install or remove Vreds on either my Ksyriums or Vector Comps. Strong hands I guess.

Try to stretch them out a bit. Loop a tire over your feet and pull. Work your way around half the circumference, unless you want to double stretch. It might just be enough.
re: Tire won't go on.daniell
May 25, 2003 1:46 PM
Get yourself one of those tire installation tools. They work by grabbing the bead, and lifting it onto the rim. I carry a VAR tool with me at all times. The only one that I know of who has them is Rivendell. You can also buy shop quality ones that are not intended to be carried on the road.
I hope this helps.
Try this...filly
May 25, 2003 7:41 PM
Search the message board for "michelin lever tire roll." What the search returns is one hit--written by me about 2 months ago in response to the same question that you pose. Let me know how it works...
It's easier to show it than explain it, but I'll try...Dad Man Walking
May 25, 2003 7:43 PM
For starters, if you have the bead seated on the bottom of the wheel (say near the valve) and you are trying to pry the bead over rim at the top (opposite the valve), you are basically trying to force the bead to do the exact thing it was designed to prevent. As you probably have noticed, you can usually get the first bead to seat fine, but prying that second bead over can be difficult. And keeping the tube stuffed inside and not pinching it can be vexing, too.

The trick is to pinch both beads of the tire together and push them into the center of the rim, which is deeper and smaller in diameter than the shoulder of rim where the bead seats. This gives you enough room to either mount or dismount the tire at the other end of the wheel, ususally without using tools.

To mount the tire this way, you want to have the tube already stuffed inside it with barely enough air to give it shape and hold it in the tube. If you are using a new folding tire, you need to unfold it and get it to look more or less like a tire first...the partially inflated tube will help it hold the proper shape. You will mount the tire/tube combo together. Once your tire/tube assembly is set up, seat the valve stem into the hole and work both beads over the rim and into the center of the wheel. Try to work in both directions (away from the valve) and keep the bead pulled into the center of the wheel by pulling the tire away from the valve side as you go. With any luck (or just a smidgen of practice) the entire tire will go on without tools. If it gets tight towards the end, let a bit of air out of the tube and use the palm of your hands instead of your thumbs to push the bead. A tire iron can provide a little extra help at this point if necessary. Throughout the process, the tube should stay tucked safely away inside the tire, and you should not have any problems with pinching the tube between the tire bead and the rim, which is a problem when you are trying to pry the bead on one side at a time. (Always inspect the beads on both sides before inflating, just to be sure.)

Taking a tire off is far easier and very fast. Let the air out of the tube and leave the valve open. Pinch both beads together and pull up and over, and you should be able to peel the tire and tube together over one side of the wheel. If it is to tight, pinch the beads together on the opposite side of the wheel and make sure that they are not sitting squarely on the shoulder of the rim, but instead are in the center of the rim...you should be easily able to peel it off of the other side at that point.

For yuks, I just went to the garage and did this on the following set-up: Mavic Open Pro with a Vittoria All Weather Open tire. It was tight but it peeled off without having to fuss with the opposite side, and took around 10 seconds, no tools. Putting it back on can take a few minutes, but the off and on times combined take less time than unpacking and stowing your tire irons.