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Need FAQ Help! What topics for FAQ?(36 posts)

Need FAQ Help! What topics for FAQ?gregg
May 21, 2003 8:27 AM
Hey All,

Doug has brought up a desire to create an FAQ for the board, and I think it is a good idea.

With you guys help, we should be able to come up with something to help out newbies and cut down on the redundancy for the board regulars.

That said, what topic do YOU think should be in the RBR General Forum FAQ?
I'll startDougSloan
May 21, 2003 8:39 AM
What does "NM" mean?

campy vs shimano

light vs aero wheels

frame materials

how to post a photo (upload or link)

getting ready for first century or double

It would be nice if people could suggest particular existing threads to link, too.

Doug
First and foremost, FIT tips...Fez
May 21, 2003 8:44 AM
Fit questions are here almost every day.

FAQ fit should at least include standover, reach, stem angle and height, seat tube and head tube angles, fork rake, bar width, KOPS, crank length.

FAQ should also include components, wheels, frame materials, double vs. triple, etc.

Maybe also a basic how to maintenance section.
ditto on fit...also add how various bike makes measure frameskenyee
May 21, 2003 9:57 AM
Here's what I would put in for frame size:

C-C means center of bottom bracket to center of top tube
Companies measuring this way are Serotta, Merckx, ...

C-T varies depending on how a company defines T
Trek - T is the top of the seat tube (roughly 3cm more than a C-C measurement)
Colnago - T is the top of the seat clamp (roughly 2cm more than a C-C measurement)
Most others (including Cervelo, Bianchi, ...) - T is top of top tube or roughly 1/2 cm more than a C-C measurement

ken

p.s., thanks for taking the time to do a FAQ :-)
I think Kerry already has one.OldEdScott
May 21, 2003 8:41 AM
At least he has some good, canned answers that he whips out for the repetitive questions. His work in that area might be a good starting point.

Hey, if we did a non-cycling forum FAQ, there'd be no more posts, since we all argue the same line every day!
non-cyclingDougSloan
May 21, 2003 8:45 AM
For non-cycling, we could just number our arguments and phrases to save time and electrons. Something like this:

1(nm)

14(nm)

37(nm)

7(nm)

12(nm)...

Doug
19! nmOldEdScott
May 21, 2003 8:49 AM
Which one of those isMatno
May 21, 2003 8:52 AM
"Liberal vs. Conservative"?

I guess we'd need separate numbers for:
1. Liberals are panty wastes
2. Conservatives are Nazis
3. Can't we all just be friends?

:^)
Never seen anyone say #3! nmOldEdScott
May 21, 2003 8:58 AM
I feel like a number. ; )128
May 21, 2003 9:34 AM
I like the sound of the '101' concept for the already stated reasons.

btw imo, this board format (and the members of this board) is superior to much of what's out there (in here??) on the Internet. Thanks and good job to all you webheads. Really, great site.
Stop sucking up you panty waste ;0) nmLive Steam
May 21, 2003 10:09 AM
DOUG! Steam's liberal-bashing in the General Forum!OldEdScott
May 21, 2003 10:17 AM
Please move to where it's appropriate, the Liberal/Anti-American Bashing Forum!
#1 nm :O)Live Steam
May 21, 2003 10:20 AM
quit whining / #47 nmDougSloan
May 21, 2003 10:38 AM
You're both fascists/#2OldEdScott
May 21, 2003 10:40 AM
this thread not going how I expected, and it's my fault :-| nmDougSloan
May 21, 2003 10:41 AM
We have this on a college football board I frequent (link)SpecialTater
May 21, 2003 9:11 AM
http://mudlizard.com/misc/HobbesGuide.html

Good for a laugh.
definitionsJS Haiku Shop
May 21, 2003 8:45 AM
what is a clincher?

repeat ad nausea.

of course, i usually direct them to sheldon's site.
Links to Sheldon's and Park sites (nm)SpecialTater
May 21, 2003 9:10 AM
nolo messago
here are a fewmohair_chair
May 21, 2003 8:48 AM
- what size bike do I need?
- what kind of road bike should I get?
- why do people get so upset about spoilers?
- should Lance ride the Vuelta in support of Heras?

A FAQ is a good idea, but even better is doing something like on MTBR in the beginner forum, with "mountain biking 101" at the top of the page. You can't miss it.
I think the chair-man is onto something.OldEdScott
May 21, 2003 8:56 AM
A FAQ is a great idea, but a Road Biking 101 forum is even better. FAQ's tend to get old and musty, and they're also impersonal. People come on the Web not just for information, but because it's lively and social. They want to TALK.

Besides, I can still see a million posts: "I checked the FAQ on FIT (ed note: in this universe, FIT is always spelled in all caps) and don't understand ..." Then we're off on another FIT nightmare.

A beginners forum would probably work if some of the vets would take time to dip in and contribute a couple of times a day. I know I'd be happy to, if it would keep some of the dross off the main board.
I'll add a couple.........abicirider
May 21, 2003 8:50 AM
(1) How to size a frame fitting i.e I'm blah blah what size frame do I need.

(2) Compact Vs Standard road geometrey

(3) Difference between Clincher and tubular

(4) Whats a troll ?

(5) Base Milage

(6) Whats a crit?

Sure there is lots and lots more
Going be another wet rain ride today in raining NC is it ever going stop??
Be Safe Out On The Roads!!!!!!!!
Ray Still
Mooresville, NC
pedal comparisonsDougSloan
May 21, 2003 8:57 AM
lonefrontranger "Road pedals: head-to-head comparison" 10/13/01 10:01am
Be carefulIamhoosier
May 21, 2003 9:06 AM
that the FAQ does not become too detailed. You may never gain new posters. I know a lot of questions are repetitive (guilty). But it is the give and take that make this board enjoyable for me. Also, who doesn't need to be reminded of the basics every now & then.

I do think "Road 101" is a good idea. Would probably generate a little less basic questions.
Stick with...LactateIntolerant
May 21, 2003 9:28 AM
...FAQs that have definitive answers.
How to post a pic = good
Campy vs Shimano = bad
Colnago CT1- Weld quality and Russian Ti (nm)irregardless
May 21, 2003 10:28 AM
..
If I can just get serious for a second...cory
May 21, 2003 10:35 AM
When people my age--the massive Baby Boom--find out I "still ride" (meaning that I didn't quit when I was 16, I guess), they have all kinds of questions related to cycling and middle-age. A lot of us who are active, I think, forget how INactive the bulk of the population is. Might be a place in the FAQ for some basic, first-bike-in-25 years questions: Am I too old, how much do I have to spend, why does my butt hurt, how do you shift this thing, what about cars? Four or five or six questions, with a referral to a bike shop, could handle most of it.
that's good, usually followed byDougSloan
May 21, 2003 10:40 AM
"I haven't ridden in 25 years, but I want to get into masters racing..." (I know, I've nearly been there).

You know of any threads that would be good for starts?

Doug
How about...coonass
May 21, 2003 11:15 AM
setting up a list of topics, such as: "Frame Size", then just make a comment (or two) that it's AS important to get the correct TOP TUBE length as well. Then add a list of URLs for the inquirer to open; such as:

Frame Sizing:
1) Comment.......
2) Comment.......
http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/frameinfo/Frame_Sizing.htm
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-sizing.html
http://www.kleinbikes.com/tech_guide/fit2.asp
http://www.coloradocyclist.com/BikeFit/index.cfm
http://www.jimlangley.net/crank/bikefitchart.html
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm
http://cis2.cuyamaca.net/212examples/00fall/avery/project/bikes2.htm
http://cyfacusa.com/frame_fit.htm
http://www.freewheelcycle.com/bikefit.html
http://www.bikebarn.net/BicycleFitting.htm
http://www.bjbicycle.com/biofit/d.html
http://www.mindspring.com/~bikefit/bicycle.htm
http://www.analyticcycling.com/
http://www.cervelo.com/text-art-bike-fit.html http://www.airborne.net/eready/janette/store/sizing.asp

Other Topics could be: BEGINNER INFO; LACTIC ACID; MAINT./REPAIR; STRETCHING; INJURIES; SADDLES;,etc.

These and other topics would save redundant threads which appear monthly...or we could just tell everyone to go to Sheldon Brown's site for info :))
which frame material is best?tarwheel
May 21, 2003 11:03 AM
Of course, most of us realize that steel is real. But to appear evenhanded, you have to describe the merits of carbon, ti and aluminum as well.

I concur that Road Biking 101 might be the best approach, covering topics such as proper bike fit, frame materials, etc. A glossary of common terms would also be helpful -- eg, clincher, threadless stem, quill stem, pace-line, etc.
cycling terms/jargongsgal
May 21, 2003 11:06 AM
Since I'm handing out links today ...OldEdScott
May 21, 2003 11:36 AM
Some funny stuff in here:

http://www.myoan.net/biking/jargon.html
excellent!!! thank you.gsgal
May 21, 2003 12:00 PM
More 'Roadie Slang'coonass
May 21, 2003 4:03 PM
http://members.tripod.com/geert_pc/slang.htm
my vocabulary is increasing exponentiallygsgal
May 21, 2003 12:05 PM
i have gnarly bacon from an involunatary dismount due to foot fault.

funny stuff. couldn't say any of it without smirking.
Why Shimano is better than CampyCHRoadie
May 21, 2003 2:52 PM
and vice versa. ;-)