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Akirasho (or any '03 Zipp owner for that matter...)(9 posts)

Akirasho (or any '03 Zipp owner for that matter...)seyboro
May 18, 2003 3:05 AM
Please, do me a favor. Go to your bike, pick it up by the saddle, grab the rear wheel by the tire, try to move it side-to-side and see whether you have ANY noticable play in the hub.
I am having another 'discussion' with the guys at Zipp and would like to hear more of other riders' experiences.
A guy that used to ride on our team had rear hub problems likethe bull
May 18, 2003 3:38 AM
That. I think it happened to 2 hubs they replaced.He is going to try to build up the wheels with Chris King hubs later on.
follow-up question...seyboro
May 18, 2003 7:00 AM
Do you remember what the nature of his problems was? I am having some trouble with the loosening of the hub after riding/retorquing to specs/riding/losening...you get the idea. Secondly, the cogs move laterally when you spin the axle between your fingers. Ususally, this indicates a bent axle, at the least, it makes for the noisiest Record drivetrain around. I was told that a certain amount of play is within specs. If it is , I might not be able to accept the specs for a $1300 wheelset.
Thus far, the Zipp CS guys have been helpful with advice and seem genuinely concerned about pleasing the customer. Currently, the wheel is with them (2nd time)and they are trying to come up with an explanation.
Give me more time I will ask him what happened..the bull
May 18, 2003 4:36 PM
the next time I see him so it will be facts and not hear-say!
'03 404, play in rear hub < 1 mm (at rim)mja
May 18, 2003 7:32 AM
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'03 404, play in rear hub < 1 mm (at rim)seyboro
May 18, 2003 1:41 PM
I take your post to mean that you do have some play in the hub, but are not too concerned about it.
Spinning the axle only, does your cassette move at all, figure eight-style? Also, if you don't mind, I would like your thoughts (or yours, Akirasho) on what would be an acceptable hub spec in a high zoot wheelset. I am thinking, no play and a straight axle.
re: Akirasho (or any '03 Zipp owner for that matter...)Akirasho
May 18, 2003 7:42 AM
... alas, the only '03 ZIPPs I have are brand spankin' new and may not be a good test... no play.

However, I did notice a bit o play in one older set... said play disappeared when mounted in the rear dropouts (though I did snug 'em up a bit (very little play before mounting) beforehand).

I'm curious as to the natue of your discussions...

Be the bike.
Thanks, boys, I'll keep you posted. nmseyboro
May 18, 2003 12:50 PM
re: Akirasho (or any '03 Zipp owner for that matter...)mjbmx5
May 19, 2003 7:27 PM
Had the same problem with my 2003 303's both front and rear. Went to the my shop which works on most of the local Pro-1-2 bikes and he said the Zipp had already told him a fix. Take the axle out and the bearings. Inside is a sleeve which needs to be shorten. If too much is taken off then the hub will be too tight which is what happen to one of my wheels. Zipp does know the answer because I called and asked about the cost of a new sleeve but they sent one out under warranty but they only cost a $2 or $3 anyhow. This was about a month ago. My local mechanic now says that Zipp is not as helpful. He has had two big time local riders with Zipp rim failures and Zipp told him that after 800miles no warranty. This did not go over with the riders. One called Zipp directly and got a replacement. Have not heard the answer on the second one yet. Two different types of of failures- one developed cracks running between the spokes and other the side skin delaminated which may have been caused from using the wrong brake pad- too much heat but in my opinion for the price you pay for these things they should send you some of their pads.