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do I need that plastic spoke protector?(35 posts)

do I need that plastic spoke protector?dtufts
May 15, 2003 11:36 AM
My new bike came with a plastic spoke protector on the rear hub. Is that necessary? What does it protect against?

I need to lose those 2 grams. :-) Plus, I figure that removing it will lower my "poser" quotient. So what say ye?
Spoke protectors and long black sox are a must....nmMR_GRUMPY
May 15, 2003 11:43 AM
Spoke protectors and long black sox are a must....nmBarnyard
May 15, 2003 1:33 PM
I second the long black socks. Long brown socks might also work too.
You guys can't trick me.dtufts
May 15, 2003 2:02 PM
You guys can't trick me. I saw on the cover of Sports Illustrated that Lance is sporting short white sox.

I will only wear what Lance wears. That way no one will recognize that I'm a novice.

Signed,

Drone of the Evil Republic of LA
ID no. 5200

(I hereby change my handle)
One last trick.......Tuck your jersey into your shorts....nmMR_GRUMPY
May 15, 2003 7:24 PM
IMHO .. its like pubic hair ....Spirito
May 15, 2003 11:43 AM
its there for some reason but it wont kill you to take it off either.

ciao
Just don't get it caught in your spokes! nmrwbadley
May 15, 2003 11:45 AM
Just like pubes53T
May 15, 2003 11:59 AM
They are often removed purely for stylistic reasons.
I've stirred the beast...mohair_chair
May 15, 2003 12:18 PM
...now the fun begins again. Someone poke it with a stick!
LOL! don't provoke him further! nmJS Haiku Shop
May 15, 2003 12:22 PM
He'll end up back on double secret probation.... nmDave Hickey
May 15, 2003 12:35 PM
Pubes...jaybird
May 16, 2003 5:59 AM
I wonder what the weight of a standard issue of pubes is? For that matter is there a significant weight savings by shaving your legs?

Anyone want to take it on as an experiment?

If so, Js, imagine how much weght you could save by shaving your head and face!
re: do I need that plastic spoke protector?bicyclerepairman
May 15, 2003 11:48 AM
If you're like me, you don't need it. If you're like some friends of mine who ride, you do need it. Should your rear deraileur get damaged (falling garage door, for example), and you overshift off the large sprocket, the chain will wedge in between the spokes and the sprocket, cutting deep grooves into said spokes where the stress is greatest. Oh, and you might crash. Your call.
Up to youDCP
May 15, 2003 11:51 AM
It is there so that if your chain comes off to the inside the chain won't stop your rear wheel and cause an accident.

Most of us seem to think that if we ride regularly we can keep our bikes adjusted well enough that it is unneeded.

The real reason to want to take it off is not so much weight by the way, it is that wonderful lateral push it provides in reaction to a cross wind.
Like back brakes on a fixie, we take them off to show we can nmdzrider
May 15, 2003 11:58 AM
Thanks . . .dtufts
May 15, 2003 12:25 PM
for your thoughts. I think it's going to go. The spoke protector, that is, the other is none of your business.

As a practical matter, I'm never in that biggest cog unless I am climbing, which means I'm going slow. So if it were to jump off I might go down, but at a very low speed.
Is that your new Royce Union?Kristin
May 15, 2003 12:29 PM
Real bikes don't come with guards. ;-0
LOL - a new side of your personality. nmdzrider
May 15, 2003 12:46 PM
Kristin getting heady after her brief stint as Queen of the Non-Cycling Board ;-) (nm)js5280
May 15, 2003 2:38 PM
Is that your new Royce Union?dtufts
May 15, 2003 1:01 PM
It's a Trek 5200. [please feel free to insert your comments about whether that's a real bike below] While, the LBS left the spoke protector on, they were kind enough not to put an awful "PURCHASED FROM YOUR LBS" stickers on the bike. That right there seems to me to be one of the hallmarks that separates a "high end" shop from a mom & pop mass consumer shop.

By the way, I've had the bike for 2 months and just adore it. A real sweet ride, IMHO. I will post a pic or two when I get around to it. Although, I gather everyone has already seen at least one or two of these already. . . .
Ouch, that hurt.Kristin
May 15, 2003 1:17 PM
My bike is plastered with cbike.com stickers. At least 4 of them. Big suckers too. However, CBike is debatably a high end shop. Or is that high zoot?
no offense intended . . .dtufts
May 15, 2003 1:36 PM
I got mine from what I think is the highest end bike shop in this town. When he called to say it was coming in, I asked him not to put a sticker on, he replied: "did you see any shop stickers on any of our bikes?"

Me: "no"

Him: "We would never do that."

On the other hand, I could see the benefit in having the LBS know that its "one of theirs." Maybe you get a better deal on maintenance, etc. But I guess that doesn't apply to a dot com shop. Sorry.

I realize my bikes is not really "high end," but it was expensive. At that kind of money, and especially if I were to drop $5K for a Pinarello, De Rosa, etc., I would be very upset if the shop put one of their stickers on it without asking me. Four stickers?!! I'd refuse to take delivery.
no offense intended . . .laffeaux
May 15, 2003 2:00 PM
I work part time in a shop. Our shop sticker is pretty subtle. The sticker on a bike means that the bike gets free minor maintenance and reduced rates on major services.

A shop near ours does not apply stickers to bikes. A lot of the reason they don't is that they don't want to see the bikes back at their shop again. They make money selling a lot of bikes at a low price. The way they achieve the lower price is through reduced inital assembly times (we often rework their bikes) and providing no on-going maintance on bikes they sell. I'm not sure those stickers mean, "high" or "low" end shop.

I'd say your 5200 is high end bike though.
no offense intended . . .Drone 5200
May 15, 2003 2:13 PM
I'll take that as a compliement on the bike. Thanks. I think it's about as high end as I'm ever going to get.

I also don't care for car dealers that do the same thing with stickers or those glue on name plates. There's defintely no maintenance advantage there.
Use steel spoke protectorsfiltersweep
May 15, 2003 5:14 PM
"steel is real"
By the way. . . .dtufts
May 15, 2003 1:56 PM
my new trek has TEN, count 'em, T-E-N "trek" stickers on it. A bit much, if you ask me. Made me think about going for a project one custom job just to lose all those stickers, but then I came back to my senses.
10 is that allmhinman
May 16, 2003 4:24 AM
My Colnago MXL (AD11) has Colnago 19 times painted (no stickers) including the stem (2x), but it says it so beautifully.
What color scheme did you get?...MVN
May 15, 2003 3:50 PM
and what components did you get? I ask because I may get one in about a month. More than likely I'll get it stock with Ultegra and Bontrager stuff, but change out the saddle for my Koobi Silver. I'm thinking of getting the Pearl black carbon color instead of the USPS, but in truth, I've seen a USPS and it's purty! Anyway, I'd love to read your thoughts on the bike, the ride, components, etc. Some pics when you can would be great, too.
stock 5200, postal color schemedtufts
May 15, 2003 8:54 PM
I can't do the pics now, but you shouldn't have any trouble finding one in at your LBS. You'll have to settle for a verbal description for now.

It's a stock 5200 62cm. I'm 6' 3.25" 180 pounds 35 yr old. I went with the postal blue/silver color scheme. I really liked these colors and they have a great shine and sparkle in the sun. Outside in the broad daylight it is a very pretty color scheme. IMHO one of the best looking of the new bikes for this summer. I didn't care much for the dark smoke color. I will note that the finish is not perfect, or, that is to say, its not as good as I would have expected on a new bike that cost as much as this one did. Specifically, the "trek" stickers on the headtube are crooked, there is one spot where the clear coat has flaked off, and it came with a small paint chip out of the box. The LBS touched it up, and I was so anxious to get going, I didn't mind too much, but come on. Maybe I'm too much of a perfectionist. These are really very minor things.

I've got the stock Ultegra groupe with Race Lite wheels. I love the groupe and wheels. No complaints at all. The bike is light. It shifts well. I've got relatively bigger hands and find the index shifting to be very easy and conveneint. No flex that I've noticed at all. I went with the triple, and that was sure the right decision for me. I need the small front ring a lot more than I thought I would.

After about 2 weeks I upgraded to a selle italia flite trans am. The san marco luxe seat that it came with was making me numb. My LBS charged me $30 for the new seat. I thought that sounded fair. I added the older ultegra SPD-R pedals. I think they are great and fit with the other Ultegra stuff.

Also, the LBS threw in a free fitting with a physical therapist that they have a deal with. He measured all the angles and helped me find the best size. I was worried that 62cm might be too small. But it fits great and that has borne out over the 2 months I've had it. I use a 130mm stem.

I went and broke my budget and upset the wife a bit for going over $2k, but so far I am not regretting it one bit. The ride is so just so sweat. I think the 5200 is the best deal for a full carbon fiber bike by far. I highly recommend it to anyone.

-dave tufts
if you do not do your own wrenching, then yeslaffeaux
May 15, 2003 12:47 PM
If you do NOT work on your own bike or know how to keep it in adjustment, leave it on. An overshift can trash your wheel and/or deraileur. However, if you know how to adjust your own bike, and stay on top of things, you can avoid using one (although on occassion you might wish you'd left it on).
Got dropped yesterday . . .micha
May 15, 2003 4:44 PM
. . . by a guy with a huge pie plate spoke protector and a 1976 Blackburn rack. He rides 200 miles a week. I ride 50 miles a week.

Draw your own conclusions.
Not one TdF has been won with a plastic spoke protector. nmTFerguson
May 15, 2003 5:25 PM
Maybe they are very clear plastic, and we just can't see them.nmMR_GRUMPY
May 15, 2003 7:29 PM
OMG . . . you've burst my bubble, I'm through with this sport.dtufts
May 15, 2003 8:26 PM
Saw a post using TdF as a reason not to race clinchers.....TFerguson
May 16, 2003 8:09 AM
Thought it must apply to plastic spoke protectors as well.
TF