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Stupid question about jerseys(51 posts)

Stupid question about jerseys94Nole
May 14, 2003 8:48 AM
I am a relative newbie and I'll have to admit that I would feel like a total goober to go out and buy up a bunch of team jerseys when I know nothing about the teams, etc. So, I haven't bought any.

Do those here always where team colors when you ride or do you laugh at those who do?

Oh, and what is a poser? I think I know but would like to read your replies. Thanks
wear what you liketarwheel
May 14, 2003 8:54 AM
Cyclists wear team jerseys because they like the colors, design or pull for a particular team. You're not a poseur wearing a team jersey in my book. I avoided them for a long time because the European sizes are hard to figure out, but now I have several. I like brightly colored jerseys so I'm visible to car drivers, and many of the team jerseys are excellent in that regard. Generally teams jerseys are high quality and fit nicely once you figure out the sizing. Best prices can generally be found at probikekit.com and bikejerseys.com
Get Panaria jersey.....african
May 14, 2003 9:44 AM
I have the team Panaria jersey, and I even wear it with the team socks and gloves. My bike is a colnago GEO (orange and blue). I ride with the other roadies aroung here, no laughs yet to my face. I like the jersey (it is very bright) and a nice team with great climbers. Besides check out the fat dumbo wearing the Bucaneers world champions jersey and he does not even play footie. I wear a team jersey and I actually get off the sofa and ride. I find that team clothing is very good quality, the socks and gloves are awesome.

Now the main thing is to never look the worst or best, just fit in the middle somewhere....... cheers
A jersey is OK but......MR_GRUMPY
May 14, 2003 9:04 AM
someone who wears a full pro team kit and rides around at 12 mph, will get a few snickers. (Not the candy bar)
A jersey is OK but......The Human G-Nome
May 14, 2003 10:43 AM
someone who wears a full pro team kit and rides around at 12 mph, will get a few snickers>>>

Mr. G, does this apply to recovery rides as well? How about if i'm riding in the park with my girlfriend? Should I first change out of the jersey or at least attempt to cover it up?

thankyou, i will take your answer off the air.
what he said (wear what you like)JS Haiku Shop
May 14, 2003 9:08 AM
poser/poseur = all show and no go

jerseys = team colors are an inexpensive way to wear higher quality jerseys. otherwise, similar non-team designs can cost $65+, whereas many of us find team colors in the same cut & manufacture for $25 or less.

sometimes it's fun to wear them, too. they are also a way to show your affinity for a rider, team, or nationality.

wear what you like. p!ss on the jersey police!
I try to reduce poseur factor.Eug
May 14, 2003 9:21 AM
I get noname brand monocolour but good quality jerseys. They're cheaper for the same quality, and they have less poseur-ness to them.

A lower poseur factor is important to me as I only ride 15-17 mph average. Maybe if I was riding 21 mph I'd be less concerned. :)
what he said (wear what you like)TimePedal
May 14, 2003 10:26 AM
too much elitism in a sport where 99% don't get paid (or paid enough) to ride. Where what you want, ride what you want, and go out and have fun. If you feel weird about wearing a team jersey, that's fine, buy a solid or other type of jersey. If you are into wearing team jerseys or the entire team kit, that's great too. Do I snicker if I see someone wearing a team kit, no, just like I don't make fun of the guy that wears a very ugly color jersey with non-matching shorts and helmet.

You would think that I would hear more smack or ridicule wearing my black socks and bulls shorts when I play basketball. I hear more of the "that's a cool pair of shorts etc"...even if I miss all my shots. Weird how cycling is just the opposite.

PS to JS Haiku...the motorola bike is sold....
which one? the Urs bike? nmJS Haiku Shop
May 14, 2003 10:38 AM
which one? the Urs bike? nmTimePedal
May 14, 2003 11:57 AM
Yes the Urs Z. bike.
:( how unfortunate! nmJS Haiku Shop
May 14, 2003 12:15 PM
My rule on wearing team jerseys.....macalu
May 14, 2003 9:16 AM
is to wear any jersey you like giving no explanation for your actions unless you feel like it. My favorite jersey is my Team Lardbutt jersey, which is self-explantory, although sometimes when someone asks about it I will answer either that it is a tragic typo or an obsure German third division team. I also have an outragiously colored jersey with a teddy bear on the front. I no nothing about the team it represents, and don't care. I also use friction shifters and don't care whether people laugh at me. When you ride on the road some motorists will curse you and try to run you off the road into a ditch. Compared to that having some snob sniff at your choice of garb is pretty inconsequential.
That would be "wear" (nm)94Nole
May 14, 2003 9:24 AM
Related Question...joekm
May 14, 2003 9:30 AM
I'm not big on team jerseys myself. But I do like them with a little character. I like the Primal Wear Designs, but are there any other "Novelty/ Artsy/ etc." jersey makers out there?

For example, from the Looney Tunes department, I think these characters would sell on a jersey.

Speedy Gonzales and Road Runner (of course) but also...

Foghorn Leghorn, Wile E. Coyote, and Marvin the Martian

The beer department seems reasonably well represented, but I'd love to find a Guiness jersey.

I've also seen a Reynolds 853 jersey, and even an Ironhorse bicycles jersey, but I can't find them for sale anywhere.

Any ideas?
Where can I get a Jelly Belly Jersey? NMLowend
May 14, 2003 9:42 AM
Where can I get a Jelly Belly Jersey? NMJL
May 14, 2003 9:52 AM
They have them here:

http://www.bicyclinghub.com/jellybelly.html

But they're a litle too "rich" for my budget.

Happy riding.

John
Where can I get a Jelly Belly Jersey? NMtarwheel
May 14, 2003 10:09 AM
You can buy team jelly belly jerseys for about $50 at branfordbike.com.
Thanks, I like the Crash Dummy Jersey too. NMLowend
May 14, 2003 10:23 AM
Ouch! NMLowend
May 14, 2003 10:17 AM
VolerMel Erickson
May 14, 2003 11:42 AM
www.velowear.com
Lots of jerseys, reasonable prices, great quality. Wait for their sales. Sign up for their email and you get notified of sales each month. Great shorts, luv 'em.
You gotta be ripped to look good in team uniformsKristin
May 14, 2003 9:46 AM
Team kits are WAY too tight!! Believe you me, some people (myself included) should not be wearing itty bitty european lycra skinsuits. I just stick to solid jerseys mostly. I have a couple club jerseys that I picked up and one from the Hilly Hundred ride; but those don't match my shoes, so they stay in the closet.
good choice for the "non-ripped"DougSloan
May 14, 2003 10:16 AM
myself included...

http://www.velogear.com/benjersicjer.html

http://www.velogear.com/benjeje.html

Doug
You don't have to be "Ripped" to wear a race fit jerseyMR_GRUMPY
May 14, 2003 11:52 AM
If I gain any more weight, I'll have to get the dreaded Club fit. The day I pick up my fat-.....I mean club fit jersey, someone named Nelson will be lurking behind a tree to give me the famous......Ha...Ha. ......Crushed.
tight jersies give you a great incentive to get/stay thin (nm)ColnagoFE
May 15, 2003 6:03 AM
If it is made from Coolmax and under $50...miposy
May 14, 2003 9:47 AM
...it's the jersey for me, regardless of looks. You will get very little ridicule for having a team jersey, but lots if you have the entire getup from socks to helmet.

Jerseys, unless abused, will actually last a long time, even when washed normally. Just buy yourself three or four and call it good. For the most part, the differences really are cosmetic IMO.

Shorts and tights require a lot more thought, as pads and such are a highly personal "comfort" decision. I personally prefer Castelli, but also own and ride Pearl Izumi. You will see people all over the board with different preferences.

The same dynamic exists with winter jerseys, gloves, shoes, jackets, and just about everything else save for "regular" jerseys. A jersey is a jersey.
other optionstarwheel
May 14, 2003 10:14 AM
If you're not into team jerseys, some other good options are Voler (velowear.com) and ecyclingstore.com, which has lots of beer jerseys for $40-50. Voler has a lot of flag jerseys for different states and countries as well as other designs. Performancebike.com usually has a lot of jerseys on sale, ranging from solid color to Primal to team designs.
re: Stupid question about jerseysPEDDLEFOOT
May 14, 2003 10:28 AM
I have a few Pearl Izumi Jerseys that I think are nice.The latest one is the Quisp cereal jersey that always gets a good reaction.I'm looking to get the Yahoo chocolate drink or the Ben and Jerry's ice cream jersey next.I think that Performance has them available although I got mine from my LBS.Wear what you think looks nice and don't worry too much about the people who think you're a poser.When it comes down to it we are all posers to the Professional cyclists anyway.
Right now I would love to have the 2003 Team CSC jersey...Bruno S
May 14, 2003 10:30 AM
After Tyler's wins it would be cool to wear the CSC jersey that BTW it's really nice.
re: Stupid question about jerseysPMC
May 14, 2003 10:47 AM
As others have mentioned, the quality is pretty good and the prices can be really good if you shop around. I personally like the fit of team jerseys and don't really care for jerseys with a loose fit.

On a side note - I saw a guy a couple of weeks back riding against traffic on the shoulder of a 2 lane highway wearing a full Domina-Vacanze kit riding a Team Zebra Specialized. Didn't laugh but it did cause me to smile.
re: Stupid question about jerseysThe Human G-Nome
May 14, 2003 10:57 AM
we have a guy who shows up sometimes on our group ride in the same kit. some people comment, others don't care. there is a consenus though, that very few cyclists would want to be caught dead in that gear. he's always telling us about his races and crits, but when we hit the hills he always ends up blowing up (sometimes catastrophically). don't know what to make of this guy.

on another note, IMO, you should be able to wear anything you want including a full team kit, just like any other cyclist should be feel free to think you're a poser. if they say something about it, well that's another matter. personally, i don't think there's any poser factor involved with wearing a partial kit - it just shows you're a fan. it's like a baseball fan might wear a jersey from his favorite team, but he's not going to combine that with the pants, hat and socks. he'd look silly. but to each his own because if you don't mind looking silly, i certainly don't might looking at you looking silly. anything that brings a smile to my face on a ride is a definite plus.
re: Stupid question about jerseysThe Human G-Nome
May 14, 2003 12:03 PM
we have a guy who shows up sometimes on our group ride in the same kit. some people comment, others don't care. there is a consenus though, that very few cyclists would want to be caught dead in that gear. he's always telling us about his races and crits, but when we hit the hills he always ends up blowing up (sometimes catastrophically). don't know what to make of this guy.

on another note, IMO, you should be able to wear anything you want including a full team kit, just like any other cyclist should be feel free to think you're a poser. if they say something about it, well that's another matter. personally, i don't think there's any poser factor involved with wearing a partial kit - it just shows you're a fan. it's like a baseball fan might wear a jersey from his favorite team, but he's not going to combine that with the pants, hat and socks. he'd look silly. but to each his own because if you don't mind looking silly, i certainly don't might looking at you looking silly. anything that brings a smile to my face on a ride is a definite plus.
re: Stupid question about jerseyswookieontherun
May 14, 2003 11:02 AM
The only full kit I wear is my Indiana University kit. This os because I go here, and I love to represent when on the road.

That being said, I own about 10 different jerseys, so many because of either great deals or gifts. I've found that I like the garneu jersey's a lot cause they dont irritate my piercings, and I dislike the castelli jersey's I've got. I hate their zipper metal tag thing. When I'm climbing and really pushing it that thing hits me in the neck.
Where can I buy IU jersey?Iamhoosier
May 14, 2003 11:50 AM
Live in Southern Indiana, football season ticket holder so I am in Bloomington 5 or 6 wkends each fall. You would think they would sell them in the Varsity Shop but have never seen one. Thanks
Where can I buy IU jersey?wookieontherun
May 14, 2003 10:31 PM
they only sell em through iusf. go to http://iusf.bloomington.com and pick one up there. There should be a link to purchase little 5 stuff from them- if not just give em a call :-) Their bibs are super comfy too!

Jonny
Thanks!! (nm)Iamhoosier
May 15, 2003 4:33 AM
Team jersey's OK, race leaders jerseys?innergel
May 14, 2003 11:11 AM
I personally would steer away from race leaders jerseys. It's drives me nuts to see a fat guy in a polka dot climbers or yellow jersey in a pair of denim shorts and tennis shoes. Those jerseys are earned by too many months and years of VERY hard work for me to wear one. I kind of feel the same about team jersey's but I can understand everyone's position on their quality, loyalty to the team, etc.

Bottom line, if you have the cojones to wear a jersey of any kind and can pull it off, more power to you. It's all ultimately about riding well and whatever helps you in that department.
"Can you SEE me now?"JL
May 14, 2003 11:17 AM
Like others said before, wear what you want. I've been using the above phrase for my cycling gear purchases recently and team jerseys sometimes fit the bill (Euskatel-Euskadi is one). I'd like to think people in cars will see me sooner than later (though after Saturday I'm not so sure, but I digress). At first I wouldn't buy them, but I've since changed my tune, especially when they're on sale.

Some may laugh, but who cares as long as you're enjoying your ride.

Happy riding.

John
official rulesSpoiler
May 14, 2003 11:18 AM
A cyclists is placed into the poser classification when he rides wearing a pro team jersey without adhering to the following conditions:
1. The rider must be a current or former team member, a direct relative of a current or former team member, a current employee or former employee within the past ten years of any of the team's primary sponsors.

2. For any rider not qualifying under any of the previous conditions, the rider may wear a team jersey under the following qualifying circumstances.

a. Any jersey of a team which has been disbanded for a period of at least two years may be worn by any member of the general public weighing less than 200 lbs.

b. Any jersey of a current or former non-domestic division II or III team may be worn by citizens weighing less than 200 lbs of any country not located on the same continent as that of the primary sponsor of the team.

c. chics cyclists over 65 or under 12 years of age have complete poser immunity.

Any cyclists classified as a poser under the previous conditions who further wears matching shorts, bibs, bike, or helmet is upgraded to status as posEur. Any team shorts, bibs, or helmet may be worn with non-team jerseys without incurring poser status.
What about guys who wear bibs over jerseys ?.......nmMR_GRUMPY
May 14, 2003 12:26 PM
Fred not poseur (see other message) nmDwayne Barry
May 14, 2003 12:31 PM
I take issue with your 200 lb criteria...Dwayne Barry
May 14, 2003 12:29 PM
because being a poseur is by definition trying to look like something you are not, no-one and i mean no-one is going to mistake a 200+ lb person for a pro bike rider, so I think this rules out fat people from being poseurs. Freds maybe, poseur, I don't think so.
Don't shoot the messengerSpoiler
May 14, 2003 4:59 PM
I don't make the rules, I just report what I find. I obtained the rules from an intercepted fax sent from cycling's Saint Ghisallo to the ghost of Major Taylor.
LOL! (nm)PseuZQ
May 14, 2003 5:05 PM
Beg to differfiltersweep
May 15, 2003 6:08 AM
I was out on an organized century- NOT billed as a race, but practically ridden like one nonetheless. While the guy in the full AcquaSapone kit looked quite garish, I encountered a Lance wannabe who was in his late 40s. He had the classic Postal jersey, shorts, helmet, and bike- EVEN had a hands-free cell phone mic worked into his helmet strap. I ended up riding about 70 miles with him and his crew, and he turned out to be one of the coolest people I've encountered on a ride: he simply loves everything about cycling. Period.

I would argue that to be a proper poseur, you need to have the attitude- either be completely arrogant or a hammerhead. If you are clueless, you are merely a fred.
I think I saw his son...Dwayne Barry
May 15, 2003 6:47 AM
at a race last year. I lined up next to a guy in the full Postal outfit (to the tee) and bike. The bike was complete with a downtube shifter, nevermind that there wasn't a proper hill within 50 miles of the race. I never saw him again (either in the race or at subsequent races). I agree with your assessment though, it takes attitude to be a poseur. This guy, I think was a Fred (evidenced by the chainring tatoo and the misplaced race number).
My take on the poseur issueMikeC
May 14, 2003 11:36 AM
When I was 15, my friends and I drilled out components just because we saw the pros do it, and nobody called us poseurs. They just smiled tolerantly at us because we were kids, and they understood that we were just emulating our heroes. Of course, that was 35 years ago.
The fine line is the difference between wanting to BE like someone else, and pretending you ARE like them. It's hard for people to know others' motivations: some will just automatically assume that a rider in full kit is trying to deliver the message to the rest of the world that he's a hard-core Cat 1 stud, and they won't like that. We seem to have a cultural need to topple pretenders. On the other hand, when people know you, they respond to who you are as opposed to whom they perceive you to be.
My recommendation? If you don't mind people who don't know you being suspicious of your motives, go with the team kit. If it bothers you, stay away. And don't worry about what your friends think, because clothes won't make a difference to them.
Can someone post a picture of the anatomical skinsuit?Kristin
May 14, 2003 12:31 PM
I love that thing! I wonder how long it took to design it.
The haters have psychological issues -terzo rene
May 14, 2003 12:42 PM
decisions about what to wear are all entirely subjective and therefore beyond any logical debate. I wonder what is going on in the minds of people that get so worked up about what other people wear.

The only problem with matching bibs, etc. is that you would probably only wear them as a unit. Black bibs go with everything.
I've had the 2003 CSC jersey on order for weeks!Rich_Racer
May 14, 2003 1:19 PM
I assumed it was going to come immeadiately, but then they told me 5-6 weeks! Oh well. I'm looking forward to explaining that it's in support of Tyler!

Generally I hate the kit snobbery that exists in cycling and think people should wear what they like.
re: Stupid question about jerseysjrescpa
May 14, 2003 2:24 PM
Personally, I wear mostly single color jerseys from Performance for 2 reasons. I don't like looking like a moving billboard and I'm cheap. I'd wear a pro team jersey, but I wouldn't pay $75 for the honor. I'd rather spend it on new pedals and shoes.
re: Stupid question about jerseysGreyhound
May 14, 2003 10:10 PM
I own team jerseys, the whole kelme kit, actually, plain jerseys, but nothings nicer than riding in a team kit of a team you are actually on. Join a club team and look cool.

Greyhound