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Loose bolts on my new Sidis(10 posts)

Loose bolts on my new Sidislampshade
May 13, 2003 11:30 AM
I used my new Sidi Genius 4's for the first time this morning. The fit and feel was awesome, but the bolts for my LOOK cleats came loose twice. I even lost a bolt and the plate that it tightens up against. When I first tightend the bolts, I took it easy. After they became loose, I really wrenched down on them and they still came loose. I did grease them lightly.

Anyone have this problem? Does Sidi recomend the use of Loctite or similar?
re: Loose bolts on my new SidisAkirasho
May 13, 2003 12:12 PM
... never had a problem with the cleat bolts (save for the length of some of the supplied bolts)...

... I grease my threads before installing...

... Never used it, but I don't see any harm in using BLUE Loctite sparingly...

... I do, however, use BLUE Loctite on the heel cap screw (that's what usually loosens first).

Be the bike.
Thanks, I'll try some BLUE loctite (nm)lampshade
May 13, 2003 12:59 PM
re: Loose bolts on my new SidisEric_H
May 13, 2003 12:58 PM
I would mount the cleats and then walk around in them for a few minutes. Having your weight on the cleats will likely press things together a little more, thus requiring a further tightening. I always grease the cleat bolts because they will inevitably see water in rainy rides.

As for Loctite, I don't see a problem using a small amount on the cleat bolts if you feel it might help. But again, I've never had problems with a bit of grease and sufficient torque. FWIW, Carnac recommends the use of Loctite on its cleat bolts, so I'm sure it will be OK with the Sidi.

Also, be sure to Loctite the Phillips screws that hold the heel pads on your Sidis. They WILL come loose and fall out, along with the heel pad. But, DO NOT use Loctite on the screws that hold the Microlock buckle to the shoe. Loctite will weaken the plastic on the buckle and it will break during tightening. I've had it happen, as have others....
re: Loose bolts on my new Sidislampshade
May 13, 2003 1:05 PM
I definitetly screwed the bolts in while sitting on my couch, then put the shoes on outside and jumped on the bike. I will try walking in them a bit (with kool kovers, of course) before I try the loctite.
Loctite and SIDI buckles-coonass
May 14, 2003 5:12 AM
on the 2001 (2002??) shoes were chemically incompatible. I went through 2 sets of buckles before I rode with the new shoes. I had applied L. to the screws when I first received the shoes; took shoes out of the box to ride and the buckles literally fell off into the box..I called SIDI and they sent a new pair (FREE)...same thing happend again; and when I called SIDI, they admitted that there was a chemical reaction between Loctite and the plastic's composition....they sent another set of new buckles (FREE) and commented that the buckle mfgr. was going to change the composition. If you've had this trouble, try calling:
Cust. Service: 800-578-5790
SidiUSA: 800-991-0070
They responded with promptness and were very courteous....AND thanked me for buying SIDI.....Great shoes, great Cust. Service.
btw...the replacement buckles accepted the Loctite...just put a very light coating on the tip...not a 'glob' (for the lack of a better vocabulary :)
P.S. It's worth your while tocoonass
May 14, 2003 5:26 AM
occassionaly check the screws on cleats, heel pads, and buckles.....nothing like ruining a ride due to lost screws on a cleat, or buckle....when you're stuck at home, or just watching the tube (Giro??), grab the shoes, a phillip's head screwdriver, Loctite and new lubricant for your springs...... I guarantee!
Speedplays come with blue locktite on the screws (nm)B2
May 13, 2003 7:00 PM
re: Speedplays come with blue locktite on the screwslonghorn
May 13, 2003 9:11 PM
I just got a new pair of Sidi's and Speedyplays a couple of weeks ago and haven't had a problem at all. I've beat them up pretty good and haven't felt a thing come loose at all. (knock on wood...)
Loctite 222 formulayellowspox
May 14, 2003 8:20 AM
You may have to look around a bit for this formula but it's the best choice for small threads that you may want to remove at a later time. There are two forms of 222...don't use the 222MS...just the plain 222. Works great on spoke nipples like Spinergy as well.