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center pull, side pull, dual pivot?(8 posts)

center pull, side pull, dual pivot?mattcrout
May 13, 2003 9:20 AM
can you put these types of brakes in order of braking power? thanks! What other options are there on a road bike without canti mounts?
The center pull will be a bit more powerful, ifOldEdScott
May 13, 2003 9:32 AM
power's what you need (for loaded touring etc). Dual pivots are said to give you a bit more modulation or feel than single pivots, but I can't tell a dime's worth of difference in good ones of either stripe.

The secret of modern brakes (by modern I mean the last 30 years) is they all work real good.
Dual pivots have serious power...biknben
May 13, 2003 9:42 AM
By center pull I assume you mean something like old Campy Delta brakes. A debate about this brake always errupts when it comes up. I never used them but I used to drool over them.

I used side pull (single pivot) brakes until they came out with the current dual pivot brakes. I remember switching just the front to dual pivot at first. I went down the road, grabbed the brake, and nearly launched myself over the bar. The dual pivots were far superior to what I was used to. IMO, the duals are much more powerful than sidepulls.
and don't forget the brake padscyclopathic
May 13, 2003 9:49 AM
modern pads pack far better stopping power and they're not created equal. Just replaced Shim DA with salmon KoolStops, and almost launched myself :o)
Exact opposite experienceSpoiler
May 13, 2003 2:48 PM
I just replaced my campy brake pads with the Shimano DuraAce Koolstops (The ones with half black, half salmon)
I could barely lock the rear wheel up. They functioned more like anti-lock brakes on a car.
The bike has Veloce dual pivot calipers (I had to enlarge the brake stud slot with a file) and chorus levers. Before installing the new pads, I cleaned the rims (rear Open pro, front Velocity Aerohead) first with Goo Gone and a Scotch-Brite pad, then I wiped off any reside with rubbing alcohol and a clean rag. I definitely have no brake squeal, but much less stopping power than the worn Campy HPB pads.
Maybe I just have too much toe-in.
are those road pads?cyclopathic
May 14, 2003 4:10 AM
I haven't seen dual compound road pads. Full salmon works great after you break them in. btw KoolStop makes inserts to fit Campy holders, both salmon and black 10$ from LBS
here's the link
Another thing I like about Koolstops...miposy
May 14, 2003 9:41 AM
is that they seem to be much easier on rims than either Shimano or Campy pads.

I'm at the point that, when buying new brakes, I immediately replace the pads with Koolstops. BTW, if you also MTB and have disk brakes, EBC Golds are a great choice for general trail riding. Far superior, IMO, to what is available from Hayes, Shimano, or Avid.
May 13, 2003 10:21 AM
When I'm nearing a corner at 50MPH I appreciate the stopping power of the duals. No comparison to my old sidepulls.