|Who else actively participates in sports other than cycling?||Fr Ted Crilly|
May 12, 2003 3:42 PM
|.... and how does this other sport impact your cycling?
Are there any other cyclists out there who regularly play football (a.k.a. soccer)? I play competitively at least twice a week, (at a not very high level I'll admit), and I'm finding that all the knocks and twists that I get while playing are resulting in me spending less and less time on the bike. It's a glorious afternoon here in San Jose, CA, and if it wasn't for the state of my legs from yesterday's game I would be out of the office at 5:15pm and on the bike by 5:40pm for a 25 mile spin. Since I have a tournament next weekend I want to get the recuperation my legs need. I love playing football so I don't want to give it up, but I'm beginning to find that the two sports don't seem ideally matched, and I'm compromising one sport for the enjoyment of the other. Anyone else have this problem?
|re: Who else actively participates in sports other than cycling?||byker|
May 12, 2003 4:01 PM
|I play golf, that doesn't usually leave me too banged up.|
|I was thinking of "real" sports :-) (nm)||Fr Ted Crilly|
May 12, 2003 4:11 PM
|"real" sports?||The Human G-Nome|
May 12, 2003 4:14 PM
|well, i play kickball.|
|Kickball? Never heard of that one.||Fr Ted Crilly|
May 12, 2003 4:24 PM
|Is it a commonly played game?|
|In the Pantheon of Great Schoolyard Games||mickey-mac|
May 12, 2003 4:33 PM
|along with dodgeball, tetherball, foursquare, keep-away, and a long list of other classics. Girls always seemed to rule the tetherball and foursquare arenas.|
|I play a mean game of ping pong. (nm)||kjr39|
May 12, 2003 4:38 PM
|I doubt it if you are still calling it "ping-pong" :) ... nm||reklar|
May 12, 2003 4:59 PM
|Yeah - the "sport" is called Table Tennis ...||Geardaddy|
May 13, 2003 8:27 AM
|OK, I used to be into this - USATT rating of 1950. Hey, give it some respect, it's had world championships since the early 1900's. I played Tennis is high school. I've also played Squash, Badminton, and Racquetball at some competitive levels. Believe it or not, I've found Table Tennis to be the most interesting and demanding racquet sport at "elite" levels. :)|
|In the Pantheon of Great Schoolyard Games||Spoiler|
May 13, 2003 12:01 AM
|How about Smear the Queer? Don't worry, it's not a gay-bashing reference.
It's also known as "Kill the Kid with the Ball."
All you need is a football. Whoever has the football has to run like hell to avoid getting tackled/mauled by everyone else. There is no goal or endzone. You just run anywhere you can for as long as to you to avoid getting smeared. When a smearing seems unavoidable, you can get rid of the football. Some brave souls will quit chasing you and actually pick up the ball themselves. Others have no interest in getting the ball, they just are in it to kick azz.
It teaches you men character and courage.
|In the Pantheon of Great Schoolyard Games||M_Lou|
May 13, 2003 5:18 AM
|known in my elementary school as "Kill Bill with the Pill"|
|In the Pantheon of Great Schoolyard Games||Psalm 147-10_11|
May 13, 2003 6:09 AM
|We called it "Russian Schmuck"|
|Its like baseball for 3rd graders!nm||the bull|
May 12, 2003 5:21 PM
|for third graders!?!?! blasphemy!||The Human G-Nome|
May 12, 2003 6:21 PM
check out the video and pics!
|I still rember the sound of the under inflated kick ball as it went off you foot and scraped across the ground.NM||the bull|
May 12, 2003 6:29 PM
May 12, 2003 6:32 PM
|Playing kickball in suits and fedoras while drinking beer. I can think of few better ways to spend a sunny Saturday afternoon. What a great site.|
|That's beautiful!||The Human G-Nome|
May 12, 2003 6:40 PM
|thanks! if you're ever in San Francisco, feel free to stop by one of our games! once i re-register the name, the link will be just www.kickthedamnball.com. i was negligent and let it run out. kickball looks like all fun and games, but when you put in 80 miles on the bike that same morning, even kickball can be quite taxing. ;-)|
|There are those who think cycling is not a "real" sport......||TNSquared|
May 12, 2003 6:44 PM
|Of course, I am absolutely not one of them. In fact, my other sport, running marathons, falls into that same category of "boring to watch" endurance events for which the majority of Americans feel only disdain.
I've been running for almost 20 years. Track and cross country through college, and then road races from 5k up to the marathon. Picked up cycling only a few months ago as a diversion initially, but now I am hooked.
While the sports are certainly different, I don't think I'd be nearly as far along on the bike without the fitness base I have from running. Conversely, I did a stint of triathlons many years ago and accordingly spent some time on a bike. I was running much less and doing only stamina type running - no speedwork. However, when I went back to running full time, my leg turnover was vastly improved. With absolutely nothing but intuition to back me up, I attributed this to the relatively quick cadence on the bike carrying over into my running.
So I do think running and cycling can compliment each other fairly well. Again, that is based strictly on my experience.
BTW - I've run several full marathons, thousands of shorter road races and run an average of 2300 miles a year, and have never had any problem with my knees. Sorry to blow up that myth, but with proper shoes and training methods distance runners are much less susceptible to knee injuries than those who participate in sports that require alot of side to side motion.
|re: Who else actively participates in sports other than cycling?||wb|
May 12, 2003 4:34 PM
|Well I'll have to come out of lurk mode to chime in on this as this afternoon was my first time playing any soccer for about 8 weeks after an ankle sprain, and I really find that cycling is one of the few things that I can do when playing soccer. Granted after a rough game 25 mile spin might be a bit much, but an easy 10-15 miles will usually make the legs feel better than taking the day off. But I will agree that soccer is very hard on the body, I used to try and play year around, indoors and out but just couldn't take the beating, so now I usually take most of the spring and fall off and just ride the bike. But anyway, like you I really love to play and I don't see myself stopping anytime soon so I usually just try to keep the ice packs in the freezer and try not to get burned out on cycling or soccer... Back to lurk mode...
|Kickball! (LOL)...I use to play College Varsity Tennis||Swat Dawg|
May 12, 2003 4:50 PM
|I stopped last year though for a number of reason, but a main one was cycling. I have only picked up riding again since childhood in the past 1 1/2 years. It started small, like Tennis was my main commitment, and I would ride 2-3x/wk, then in the Tennis offseason I would ride 3-4x/wk. When tennis Spring season began I wanted to keep riding, especially because I started racing, then I even went to my coach and told him I would only be attending tennis practice 3x/week to ride on the other days. After the season ended last year, I haven't touch up a tennis racket to play. I have picked up a new bike, a job at the bike shop, and an upgrade to sport (Mtn. Bikes) and Cat. 4. I think that one can find a medium between loves, but not without giving up something in performance in each sport. I think, however, that sports like Running and Swimming can certainly supplement cycling better than other sports that combine skill and running (football (soccer), Basketball). Soccer is a great sport (played for 14 yrs!), and it does require a lot of cardiovascular fitness, but the knocks the body takes are definitely not helpful. I found tennis was good, as it trained the fast twitch muscles, but it was bad because it does very little for cardiovascular. It all comes down to how much your willing to sacrifice in each. Cycling is a tough sport to match with other things, because it can require a lot of time on the bike, and the only way to really get good at it is to spend more time on the bike. What's the most fun? What do you what to succeed the most in? Which one do you need to improve the most? Ask yourself some question like these and use those asnwers to develop a schedule that achieves what you want. For me, that meant dropping tennis. For you it could mean finding a balance. Hope that helps.
|re: Who else actively participates in sports other than cycling?||russw19|
May 12, 2003 5:45 PM
|I play very competitive soccer and hockey. I have won a gold medal at USAC Nationals for roller hockey. I played college soccer for 2 years before transferring to a school that doesn't have a male varsity program. So I play club ball here. I also ref. soccer matches. I swear that I run more as a ref in matches than I do as a player... refs can't sub out, but we run just as much. At least a good one who keeps up with play does. I run a little during the week, but mostly my excercise is soccer practice on mondays, wednesdays, and fridays, roller hockey on tuesdays and some sunday pick-up practices, ice hockey every other saturday. And I play a soccer match and ref another on sunday afternoons. All that while putting in about 250 to 350 miles a week on the bike.
I quit racing a few years back because the stress from that and soccer and hockey was taking its toll on my body. But now after a hard match or hard game of hockey, I ride for about 25 to 30 miles in the small chainring and just relax. Keeps me healthy and gets the lactic acid out of my legs so I am not as sore the next day.
But I would say you should keep playing soccer and riding. The two go hand in hand. You will build up leg and back strength from cycling that will help keep you off the trainer's table for soccer. Also, I think that if my body is doing multiple sports, I recover faster from injuries than if I was only doing one. It is most likely psychological, but I feel I recover from sore muscles from bruises of blocking pucks faster if I ride to get the muscles working and moving. I could be wrong and really hurting myself, but it works for me, so I will keep doing it. Plus I love all 3 enough to not give one up for the others.
|I agree about the soccer refereeing||Mel Erickson|
May 12, 2003 6:10 PM
|A good ref probably runs more than the players do. The ref has to run the whole field, corner to corner, and keep up with attacks and counter attacks. I ref competetive soccer, U19 on down, high school soccer and D3 mens and womens soccer. I find the hardest workout is U16 boys because some of the matches turn into boom ball with little strategy and passing. You end up running corner to corner the whole game. At least you're not getting banged around.
In the winter I cross country ski but it doesn't compete with cycling 'cause it's hard to cycle in the ice and snow. XC skate skiing is a good complement to cycling.
May 12, 2003 5:57 PM
|I row competetively on a crew team, and the extra 15 or so hours a week of training really takes it's toll on my legs and my cycling energy, but it helps keep me in shape and have strong legs. There are a lot fo similarities between the two sports.|
|another rower here...||empacher6seat|
May 12, 2003 9:44 PM
|Althought I'm not competing this year.
I love dragging the erg outside on nice days for a good 90 minutes (I know, I'm sick). It really helps the endurance, especially while building a base. My lactate threshold also goes through the roof from all the speedwork done in rowing.
|re: Who else actively participates in sports other than cycling?||jefajones|
May 12, 2003 6:01 PM
|I run 5 or 6 days a week and swim two or three, OK for the bike, running is actually good for me and the bike.
I play on a sponsored paintball team, not good for the bike as I'm often sore for a few days after an all day tourney.
I wrestle (have a wrestling room in the basement) with my two sons. Makes me a little sore, probably will continue to get worse as they get older and bigger. Makes the bike feel kind of crappy the next day sometimes.
Kayaking (no ramfications since I only go on our lake - no whitewater for me). Billards, yeah, whatever.
May 12, 2003 8:25 PM
|Nice complement, since it's completely torso and upper body. Good rest for the legs, and playboating is great for the abdominals. I don't have enough time to be as good as I'd like to be in both, though.
May 12, 2003 8:40 PM
|I'm all about the Ultimate Frisbee :-)|
|Ulti freak here too!||kermit|
May 13, 2003 6:19 AM
|Ultimate is all about going anaerobic. It has helped me develop a tolerance for pain!
I love hiking as well. It's not really a sport but it is great crosstraining.
|run, swim, surf, hunt. nm.||Steve_0|
May 13, 2003 3:43 AM
|a different kind of kickball -||mtncranker|
May 13, 2003 5:01 AM
|called "karate" ;)
I've gotten into it this last year, has very different body demands from cycling, very good cross-training.
|if playing horsey with a 10 mo. old is a sport, then yes nm||DougSloan|
May 13, 2003 6:27 AM
|ice hockey, ultimate frisbee, a little flyfishing||jimmyihatetoregister|
May 13, 2003 6:51 AM
|I guess that's why I don't do much racing, I can't get in good enough shape compared to most racers. I enjoy the cross training and feel like it keeps me in overall good shape but I cannot keep up with my buddies who almost exclusively ride.|
|Bike,surf and freedive.||dpazos|
May 13, 2003 8:23 AM
|I think both of these sports complement cycling. I enjoy doing a 30 mile ride in the morning then going surfing for 3 or four hours in the evening. It really gives me a total body workout. I dont fee they interfere with each other. I also like to freedive although not as much as I would like. Freediving helps increase lung capacity. After a couple of days of freediving you feel like your lungs have expanded twofold.|
|rock/ice climbing, skate skiing....but no REAL sports : ) (nm)||rockbender|
May 13, 2003 10:02 AM
|re: Who else actively participates in sports other than cycling?||geckotb|
May 13, 2003 2:21 PM
|".... and how does this other sport impact your cycling?"
it's actually the other way around for me. i've been climbing (rock/ice) for almost 15 years and started road biking a couple years ago when i separated my shoulder and couldn't climb hard for a summer. even though i'm back climbing again, i still spend a lot of time on my bike and find it a real struggle to balance the two. i want to ride a double-century later this summer so am trying to put in as many training miles as possible, but sometimes feel guilty about not climbing when i'm on the bike.
I suppose there are worse things to feel conflicted about...