|My new Trek 5200-5500 (5350 to be exact)||Lazywriter|
May 10, 2003 8:32 AM
|Stripped down my Fondriest with Ultegra and added new Dura Ace shifters, bb, cassette, chain and Open Pro with Dura Ace Hubs. Kept the Ultegra crank, dreaileurs, brakes. I am not sold on the bar tape although everyone at the bike shop and my girlfriend love it. I ordered solid blue already and will change it when this gets dirty.
Put on a USPS Aspide saddle and USPS Postal computer last night. This whole bike is a little too flashy for my usual tastes, but I had a soft spot for this paint scheme since Lance has been winning. The Road to Paris documentary when he is climbing through the clouds on this frame in particular sticks out. May be nice to have for posterity when his run is over. Found it brand new in the box from R & A for under a grand for frame fork and headset.
Took it for a short spin at the bike shop. This bike is very muted and smooth. Gotta get used to that but a really nice ride. Even built up like this it is 17lb and change. Flame away. LOL
|Opposite world!||the bull|
May 10, 2003 8:52 AM
|But the same joy of the road!|
|You guys did not get that one,huh?nm||the bull|
May 10, 2003 11:44 AM
|You guys did not get that one,huh?nm||TNSquared|
May 11, 2003 7:23 AM
|Sure, it's like the ol' Star Trek matter meets anti-matter situation. If these two polar opposite bikes come together in the same ride, it will cause a cataclysmic event that will end all life in the universe. Right? :)|
May 11, 2003 9:51 AM
|I took a pic in front of lp and cds instead of books then I put a cloth chair in the back instead of leather.Carpet vs hardwood
ti vs carbon
campy vs shimano
no compuuter etc.
|A lot of effort for no payoff (nm)||mickey-mac|
May 11, 2003 10:04 AM
May 11, 2003 10:49 AM
|Oh, wow. I obviously picked up on the ti/carbon, campy/shimano, but I was so dazed by the awesomeness of both bikes that the backgrounds just kinda blurred. That, and my powers of perception have never been the same since that college keg party.
A subtle wit? There are many sides to the bull!
|Very nice bike.||Mel Erickson|
May 10, 2003 9:03 AM
|I agree with you, lose the tape, solid blue all the way. Can I have your Fondriest?|
|That bike is great, I have the same model myself, but the grip..||Swat Dawg|
May 10, 2003 9:45 AM
|has got to go. Oh my goodness, its just a little too much. I don't know what's up with bikes shop telling people to put weird tape on bikes. They told my to get some stars & stripes bar tape, and I looked a them like, "Are you out of you mind!" The frame does a lot of standing out on its own with the white paint and stickers, but the tape puts it over the top. On mine, I have Blue and Black peppered tape, and a black fork. I would have liked the full frameset, but the slight alteration at the fork makes the frame less garrish. The blue tape will look good.|
|That bike is great, I have the same model myself, but the grip..||Lazywriter|
May 10, 2003 11:04 AM
|I think the bike shop guys see so many of the bikes with the same overall look that they like to see a little variation. I will put the blue on when I get it but first sweat a little on this stuff.|
May 10, 2003 11:28 AM
|You've got serious ballz- after all the flame wars yesterday- and knowing how brutal comments can be in the gallery section... someone has to say it: it would be so much better with Campy on it ;)
I disagree about the bar tape- that white frame was Trek's most garish scheme in the first place. Might as well go all the way! Are those OCLVs more prone to cable rub on the head tube, or is there enough clearance?
Your two bikes are polar opposites- the Fondriest is completely stealth...
Holy smokes! A turntable and LPs?! More details emerge ;)
|I didn't think the bull was old enough||STEELYeyed|
May 10, 2003 11:49 AM
|to know what a turntable and a vinyl was? I had to show my 17 year old son how to put on an LP,......he had not a clue as to how it worked.|
|seven top LP I dig!||the bull|
May 10, 2003 12:07 PM
|all good!||the bull|
May 10, 2003 12:09 PM
|even beter||the bull|
May 10, 2003 12:12 PM
|Still like for being ahead of time!||the bull|
May 10, 2003 12:14 PM
|Not bad for white boys!||the bull|
May 10, 2003 12:15 PM
|Ahh the motherload!||the bull|
May 10, 2003 12:17 PM
|What inspired me to be crazy!||the bull|
May 10, 2003 12:18 PM
|And for working out!Thank you Olimpics for||the bull|
May 10, 2003 12:21 PM
|resticking this one in my head!! I Know it 8! But whose counting?|
|Alright Zappa fans, where did this come from?||amflyer|
May 10, 2003 3:38 PM
|"...the stuff in the bottom was like punching an eclair..."|
|Zappa licks my bulls.||Sintesi|
May 10, 2003 3:39 PM
|What a boring, utterly unsatisfying artist. Crap.
Zappa is a zero.
Matter of fact, I unequivocally hate his music.
All offered IMHO.
|There is some stuff he did I dont care for.||the bull|
May 10, 2003 4:56 PM
|However listen to Hot Rats It is one of his best records he ever put out. It is completely different than anything he ever put out.
I also dig on "you cant do that on stage anymore vol.2"
Halsinki finland"Awsome.Ruth Underwood is the most awsome percussionist ever! The xylophones can not be beat!
But if you hate it all I understand.
What kind of music do you like?
Just wondering what you would consider a satisfying artist?
|Ah, The Wizard! nm||Live Steam|
May 10, 2003 2:42 PM
|Sorry lazy for bombing your post with...||the bull|
May 10, 2003 12:24 PM
|boring old record pics but its saturday.I just rode 50 miles mowed the grass and now I am sitting here with nothing to do.|
|Sorry lazy for bombing your post with...||wielerpret|
May 12, 2003 12:01 AM
|Not at all! However, I'm not too keen on Herbie's electric stuff and prefer him on the piano, like on the Quartet live double album. Zappa was a giant but his more and more masturbational lyrics of the 80's now sound rather adolescent. Miles I worship. He only took a questionable turn with and after Tutu. One has to remain critical... The same about your lovely bike which would be perfectly stealthy without the Ksyrium lettering (why not Neutrons?) and with the dark grey Racing Pro tires. I can only salivate at your crankset. No Record Carbon seatpost? I agree; mine cracked after 6000 kms.
Many happy rides. Luke. Amsterdam. www.iwaarden.com (then click: 'wielrennerij' to see my bikes)
May 12, 2003 12:49 AM
|(P.S. Better is to click "mijn fietsen" ...(= my bikes).
Just played Miles''Birth of the Cool' (1950) again. F'in brilliant! The stuff he did with Gil Evans is some of the most wonderful arranging ever. 'B'ches Brew' (the right spelling couldn't be posted.. duh, -funny American puritanism-) and the other late '60s and '70s material is just WILD. Should be nice on a walkman while on a fast ride on flat country. Enjoy.
|The Miles and Brubeck Originals are gorgeous||Swat Dawg|
May 10, 2003 12:55 PM
|My mom has a whole collection of LP's back in WA state, and when I was in HS I would just sit down stairs and listen to different albums for hours. She's got some wicked Earth, Wind, and Fire, tons of Jazz (Herbie, Mann, Miles, Bird, Coltrane: Love Supreme, Roland Kirk: Tough to listen to but great, and more). I really miss access to that collection. So nah, those pics ain't boring me.|
|Did you build it up with Campy?||Fez|
May 10, 2003 1:53 PM
Actually it looks nice. I would have toned it down by using a blk saddle and blk tape, but its a nice bike any way you slice it.
May 10, 2003 2:55 PM
|Took it out for a ride this afternoon. This is my first experience with CF and am very pleased. The "wood" feel that I always anticipated is there, but not at any performance penalty, just different. This bike accelerates well and once up to speed, it is a quick bike. Stiffer than my Litespeed Classic. The Vortex is a more responsive ride overall, but the Trek is so smooth. Very eye catching though. People do look at you a bit when on a bright bike. I am not used to that on my unpainted ti. I drive silver cars too, so what does that say??
I am surprised of how relatively comfortable the Selle Aspide saddle is. At 160 grams, if anyone is looking for a light saddle, this is the one. I need to put more time in, but my big ass feels good things right away.
May 10, 2003 2:59 PM
|This is not the usual USPS saddle they sell on the stock bikes. Got it on sale for $60 plus 20% off coupon at perfomancebike.com. It is a $110 saddle. It matched, I am a dork.|
May 10, 2003 3:05 PM
|USPS Vetta computer I got for $19 at rei-outlet.com. I am really a dork. Little fuzzy photo, but it has the USPS badge. Built this up total cost for about $1500 with the new Dura Ace brake levers running almost $183 alone which was not necessary (another coupon). Not bad for a bike that would retail for over $3000 and the frame was new. My project is done, I am bored now.|
|Also got this rare print||Lazywriter|
May 10, 2003 3:11 PM
|on Ebay today. Not available too often. This pic is off Lance's site and was presented at one of his LAF dinners. I have seen some poor attempts to paint Lance, but this one is one of the best if not the best. No wonder I still live in an apartment, spending my $$$ on this crap. Not to mention that where I live $400,000 buys you an outhouse.|
May 10, 2003 7:47 PM
|How'd you build this for $1500? That's amazing!! Great looking bike.
May 10, 2003 8:33 PM
|Thanks. I got the frame, fork and headset for $995 which I thought was a nice deal. I spent about another $300 on the Dura Ace Shifters (my Ultegras are just fine but I splurged), Dura Ace bottom Bracket, DA Cassette and Chain, Stem, Computer and Saddle. Got 20% off from Nashbar and performance on everything and saved over $100. Spent another $150 on labor to strip my Fondriest and swap the Ultegra crank, brakes, and deraileurs. Complete bike ran me about $1500 as I had the parts from my other bike. Could have done it for $1200 if I transferred all the Ultegra.
I needed another bike like a whole in the head, but a Tour De France caliber carbon bike for $1500, I couldn't resist. Plus, I am gonna sell my Fondriest with a nice carbon Time straight Fork plus bb and stem on Ebay soon. That was my least ridden bike. Less than 1000 road miles because I rode my Litespeed almost exclusively for years.
May 10, 2003 10:02 PM
|Well, you were lucky to have a donor bike for all the other components. It may have been a few years ago, but you did pay for those parts, remember?
$1500 is a mildly misleading figure.
May 10, 2003 10:34 PM
|I said it was what it cost me to build it up because I transferred parts. Those were long standing absorbed costs, but I could have just bought a new bottom bracket for $36 and the stem for $27 plus $150 labor for a grand total of $1210.
If you added a new toilet (just the commode) in your home, would you factor in what it cost you for the home??? So that $600 toilet actually ran you $8000 for all the plumbing etc that was already there??? You know what I meant.
|Well actually, no||Fez|
May 11, 2003 7:50 AM
|You just needed to clearly indicate that the $1500 was for the new frame and fork and other misc pieces and did not include all the harvested parts from the donor bike.
Otherwise we would have a line out the door asking how to build up a NOS Trek OCLV w/ Ultegra for $1500.
You should take it for an extended ride and answer the overasked question, "which bike is more comfortable for long rides, Litespeed Classic or Trek OCLV?"
|re: My new Trek 5200-5500 (5350 to be exact)||dave_w|
May 10, 2003 3:08 PM
|Looks good. Like you, I have been one to go for the low key look. Removed decals from my 97 Litespeed Catalyst and Merlin mtb...bare Ti is pretty low key! Funny, recently the colorful rides are looking very good to me. Maybe I'll do like you and put a foot in each world.|
|Are you, or have you ever been||Spoiler|
May 10, 2003 3:52 PM
|a member of the Communist Party? Remember, you're under oath comrade.|
|No Men At Work, Zappa, or Brubecks........||desmo|
May 10, 2003 4:47 PM
|WOW, That is amazing||Lazywriter|
May 10, 2003 4:51 PM
|You must have loved the movie High Fidelity.... I have over 5000 mp3s and about 600 CDs, but vinyl is sweet although a little inconvenient. Nice collection.|
|No vinyl here but.....||russw19|
May 10, 2003 8:10 PM
|I have over 1000 cd's, and my mp3 library at last check was...56.5 gigs, 17,977 files in 1,473 folders... each folder is more or less an album.
I am willing to bet I have stuff in there I never heard of and didn't know I had.
|No vinyl here but.....||Lazywriter|
May 10, 2003 8:23 PM
|Awesome, and I thought I had a lot of MP3s at over 5000. Where do you get your music nowadays???|
|Holy crap!!!||the bull|
May 10, 2003 5:04 PM
|Thats awesome.You are a collector!Have you ever seen Crumb..
R Crumb has a full on set of old 98's unbelevable.Pretty interesting guy Dig on his comics too.
If you into weird stuff like I am.
Desmo you probally got some cool stuff laing around I seen some of you older bikes-Pretty sweet!
What bike do you usually ride everyday?
|Crumb was a great flick,||Lazywriter|
May 10, 2003 7:12 PM
|check out Dr Death if you haven't seen it.|
|where'd you get the shelves?||rufus|
May 11, 2003 7:32 AM
|i have nowhere near the number of albums you have, but i'm at the point where i'd like to store them in a slightly more aesthetically pleasing, and convenient methoid than my old apple crates.|
|a few answers||desmo|
May 11, 2003 8:39 AM
|I built the shelves. They go around three walls. Use 3/4 ply with a masonite veneer. Rip to 12", dado, glue and nail. You can use a bull nose or other molding on the front to make them look really nice (although I never got that far).
Didn't like High Fidelity. Highly inaccurate. Real record store weenies are funnier, meaner to customers, and never get laid that often.
Crumb is a great flick. Those are "78's" though Bull.
My vote for best rekkid flick is Ghost World.
|Nice....Otis Rush too..drift........||boneman|
May 11, 2003 9:01 AM
|How many in vinyl? I left 3,800+ LP's, tube amps and Martin Logan Monolith III's in Stateside storage when I moved to London. Haven't laid back my ear's in a while except at live shows. Still dragging around 1,500+ cd's and only tubes on the front end....sigh......|
|Nice....Otis Rush too..drift........||desmo|
May 11, 2003 10:16 AM
|about 3000 in my personal collection but tons more about for sale.
got to have that warm glow of glass bottle amps!
May 10, 2003 8:50 PM
|nice ride. I have the same bike...almost. I have the same frameset w/full DA and this year's Bontrager Race X-Lite wheelset. I went w/a Thomson Elite seatpost and plan on upgrading my Bontrager Race stem & handlebar to Deda Newton (I think). In the process, also put Deda or Cinelli blue cork bar tape on. I also have the USPS Vetta computer, but the V100HR...and I have Tacx Tao water bottle cages w/USPS bottles. Same seat as you, too. Since the bike is already the team edition, I figured I'd go the extra mile "teaming" it out. You *WON'T* see me on it in *ANY* USPS team apparel, though!! Lastly, next time I need tires I might cross the line and go w/the USPS Hutchinson Carbon Comps! ;-) Like you, I also got a sweet deal on it.
P.S. If you want to see a pic of what it looks like w/blue bar tape, lemme know, as it presently has the blue Bontrager bar tape on.
|I also removed that VW sticker on the chainstay. (nm)||jtferraro|
May 11, 2003 4:32 AM
|Post a pic of your bike with the blue tape||Lazywriter|
May 11, 2003 10:11 AM
|I am curious to see it. You went all out on your bike. My objectice was to build this bike as inexpensively as possible. I bought a Litespeed Vortex last year and this purchase was uncalled for. However, one small ride yesterday sold me on this frame. I did see those Hutch tires on sale recently, but I didn't pull the trigger on them yet. I don't think it matters at this point, the bike is so obvisouly Postal that you may as well put it all on.
I don't own Postal apparel so I won't be doing that either. If someone wants to, so be it, but I think it is a little silly.
How much does you bike weigh. I did my digital scale thing and it is in the 17lb range built up like mine. $995 for fork, frame and headset was a bargain IMO. That is 4 of these Trek for the price of 1 Vortex frame, fork and hs. Not bad in my book.
|Here you go...||jtferraro|
May 11, 2003 5:52 PM
|Yeah, I went all out on it b/c it is my first and only *real* road bike. I had my LBS weigh it recently and it was 17lbs., 1oz...however...I had my rear, steel, TRAINER skewer installed instead of my Race X-Lite Ti skewer, so I'd imagine it is about 17lbs.? If not, it should be 17lbs or lighter after I swap out the Bontrager Race stem & handlebar for the Deda stuff, cut the steerer tube at least 1cm (if not 2cm) and switch from alloy to carbon spacers. Yup, definitely a deal on these '01 framesets!
This pic shows the bike w/Elite Ciussi cages (now on my girlfriend's new Specialized Allez Dolce), as I now have the Tacx Tao's. This pic is also before I mounted my Vetta V100HR computer and before I switched from Shimano M515 mtb pedals to the new DA7750's. Sorry the pic is blurry - it's a sucky camera I borrow from work!
|Man oh man oh man am I jealous. nm||TNSquared|
May 11, 2003 7:26 AM