|LBL: have you seen LA's face at the finish line?||cyclopathic|
May 9, 2003 8:15 AM
|he was crushed and humiliated beyond believe. He probably had PR written: "First American ever! Wins oldest race!" It happened; it turned out not him. No wonder he ran away from reporters.
Bravo Tyler, way to go! take off hat to what Riis done, simply brilliant.
|I was thinking more 'disgusted' than crushed and||OldEdScott|
May 9, 2003 8:30 AM
|humiliated. He unleashed an awfully powerful race, only to be done in tactically by things he couldn't control. I'm sure he was pretty damn disappointed.|
|and that's why he ran away?||cyclopathic|
May 9, 2003 8:46 AM
|LA truly believed he's invincible. Well so much for not being able to drop Sanchez on climb and loosing to ex-domestique|
|Lance, I suspect, can still||OldEdScott|
May 9, 2003 8:51 AM
|be a dick. In fact, I'm sure of it. It was probably the better part of valor and wisdom for him to duck the post-race interview scene, because I'm sure he would have dumped pretty good on a few people and looked like a poor sport. If he were my client and I were there and handling him, I would have hustled him out the side door too.|
|Well I wouldn't say he was necessarily tactically done in...||Dwayne Barry|
May 9, 2003 8:50 AM
|more like his lack of tactical sense led to a lack of legs. He was still at the front on the St. Nicholas climb but he got blown out the back when Scarponi and Boogerd accelerated over the top.
I thought after the race he complained about getting no help from Sanchez and Sheffer. It looked like to me Sanchez was doing just as much work as he was, and it was obvious from the get-go that Sheffer was just there to mark the group for Di Luca/Astorloa.
|re: LBL: have you seen LA's face at the finish line?||moneyman|
May 9, 2003 8:47 AM
|From his website, regarding Shefer and Sanchez, the two who wouldn't work with him on the break:
"I hate to say it but they were really useless... there are not many times you get to ride to win a race like L-B-L and they chose not to take it. They will probably never get that chance again... Oh well, that's bike racing and they were trying to ride a team race."
I don't think he was crushed and humiliated, just frustrated at what could have been by changing a couple of variables. He was very strong, but any time you have one versus three, three wins.
Lance is an intensely competitive man on his bike. He had the same kind of reaction when he finished second at Amstel Gold last year. He enters the race to train and gauge his fitness, but he rides the race to win.
Why so much joy at his loss? I'm real glad that Tyler won, but you seem to be happier that Lance lost. What's he ever done to you?
|That's what I thought...||Dwayne Barry|
May 9, 2003 8:57 AM
|but for my money Sanchez looked to be working with him. Sheffer on the other hand was clearly sitting on.|
May 9, 2003 9:20 AM
|...Lance's wheel and just refused to work. Sanchez tucked on the DH and slipped off and LA moved back to try and push Sheffer back up......but he wouldn't go...
Sheffer is one of those Kazakhstani Russians, like Vino and the late Kivilev...except Sheffer is 'ethnically' German. That part of the world saw a lot of the so-called Volga-Germans move in during Stalin's time...but he's really just Russian...
Anyway, LA had no help on the last climb, and so because he knew this he waited until the peloton came on, then he just accelerated off the front again, literally attacking, in an effort to punish. My guess is that he knew his race was lost, so he put on the hurt to make sure Saeco and DiLuca could not come around. Sheffer had to pay.
|Of course it turned out...||Dwayne Barry|
May 9, 2003 9:29 AM
|that Di Luca didn't come around but how could Armstrong have known that? I think he just attacked again trying to reform the group, but his legs were gone.
LA screwed up when he dropped Moreni and Bartoli on the earlier climb and didn't wait for Merckx. If he wanted help he shouldn't have gone 100% and tried to drop his breakaway companions. I think he overestimated his strength.
I think it's funny when bike racers get all in a huff when other bike racers with stronger teams use it to their advantage by playing the proper tactic. If you're going to have a problem with that maybe you should take up triathlon?
May 9, 2003 10:20 AM
|...except I think maybe Armstrong underestimated everybody else's strength, too. Put another way, if Postal had played the same tactic with, say, Ekimov sucking DiLuca's wheel until Armstrong could bridge up and attack, we'd all see things in a different light....|
|Shefer = team player for DiLuca (nm)||wonderdog|
May 9, 2003 9:54 AM
May 9, 2003 9:09 AM
|not really. But I'm happier Tyler won then I'd had been if LA would win, for sure. I think Tyler deserved every bit of it, and he is much nicer person.
..and you've gotta admire Riis when CSC started pulling race together Phil haven't clue what will happen. no clue 'till last km.
|everybody has a bad day now and then (nm)||JS Haiku Shop|
May 9, 2003 8:48 AM
|actually, I think it was a great day||DougSloan|
May 9, 2003 8:59 AM
|I think he had a very strong, courageous day. He was vastly superior until the group caught up near the end. He can't win a field sprint, so basically he has to win in the hills, right? He just didn't get far enough ahead there to hold it.
|haven't watched the OLN coverage yet||JS Haiku Shop|
May 9, 2003 9:02 AM
|taped it at 1 AM this morning.
I have read the live coverage, though, but am more visual by nature.
|i stayed up to catch the 1am coverage||wonderdog|
May 9, 2003 9:52 AM
|and what a race! The speed was incredible. Lance was done in by his partners in the break and team tactics. Shefer was doing his job for DiLuca, and Lance was frustrated. That's bike racing. If Lance thought he was somehow going to convince Shefer to play along so he could get stomped in the finale, Lance is delusional.
Tyler played a huge gamble and it paid off. It was a beautiful attack. Enjoy the coverage...one of the best races I've seen in awhile.
May 9, 2003 9:10 AM
|At least as far as showing where he stands in prep for TDF. It was a VERY powerful ride.|| |