|Anyone here ever try a Brooks and not love it??||Kristin|
May 8, 2003 10:06 AM
|I've heard so many rave reviews of Brooks. Has anyone ever tried a Brooks and just hated it? How many miles did you put on it before you threw it in the junk bin? Also, do you use a chamois cream with the Brooks saddle or are they so comfortable that you don't need the cream?|
|love the ride, hate the looks and the weight||terry b|
May 8, 2003 10:09 AM
|Couldn't get past a 1890s saddle on a 2002 frame. Call me small-minded.|
|love the looks, weight (ti rails) ok, hate the ride||DougSloan|
May 8, 2003 10:33 AM
|This is on my 1980 Bianchi, with full brass rivets on black leather. Looks appropriate. However, it really hurts my butt on any ride over 50 miles.
The ti rail version is around 300 grams, I think, which is comparable to padded gel saddles.
|love the looks, weight (ti rails) ok, hate the ride||terry b|
May 8, 2003 10:40 AM
|Yep - I have the Ti Swift and while it may truly be 300gms, it feels (in the hand) a whole lot heavier than my Regal that is advertised at the same weight.
It would be very sexy on a 1980 Bianchi and it wasn't too bad on my 2002 Gunnar Roadie with DT shifters and black Record brake levers.
In the end, it boiled down to it not being significantly more comfortable than a Regal, or an Avocet (hurt my butt too >50) so I decided why eat the weight while hating the looks.
|would love to try a Brooks Shields.....nm||african|
May 8, 2003 11:02 AM
|Brooks Pro many years ago.||dzrider|
May 8, 2003 10:15 AM
|It was ok, not hateful or torturous, just ok. I test rode a bike with a Concor saddle on it and bought the saddle that day. I was more comfortable the first day than I was after 15 months on the Brooks Pro which I put on a bike that I sold.
I haven't used chamois cream since my last shorts with a leather chamois bit the dust. I haven't figured out what it's supposed to do now that it has no leather to keep supple. On ultra rides I use Body Glide to prevent chafing.
|re: Anyone here ever try a Brooks and not love it??||FTMD|
May 8, 2003 10:15 AM
|Yes, tried a Swift and hated it. Gave it about 500 miles and lots of voodoo treatments to try and get it to break in. Never worked and returned it. You've got nothing to lose, however, if you go through wallbike.com.|
|re: Anyone here ever try a Brooks and not love it??||Jon Billheimer|
May 8, 2003 10:34 AM
|In spite of its weight I absolutely love my Team Pro. I rode on a San Marco Concor for years, but with the Brooks there's absolutely no comparison. I think the Brooks is either a love it or hate it product. For me there was no "break in" period. I loved the feel immediately just riding out the driveway.
BTW, if anyone has a Swift that they don't like and want to sell it, e-mail me at Jon53021@telusplanet.net
|re: Anyone here ever try a Brooks and not love it??||techie470|
May 9, 2003 4:41 AM
|I to tried a Swift for about 400 miles and never made peace with it, to hard. Exchaned it for a B17, now I'm happpy :)
|what's to like?||ColnagoFE|
May 8, 2003 10:31 AM
|Heavy, overpriced, needs break in, have to treat it regularly with proofide and it gets ruined if you get rain on it. Still many swear by them. Personally I'll stick to my SLR. It's comfy for me and light.|
|highly disagree with 'overpriced'.||Steve_0|
May 8, 2003 11:02 AM
|can get a beautiful, hand-made, self-customizing team pro for 80 bucks. Compare that to some of the injection-molded pieces of junk costing well more than that these days.
Doesnt get ruined if rained on occassionally and properly dried (mine has been PLENTY of times).
|what's to like?||filtersweep|
May 8, 2003 6:34 PM
|I agree- swear by a SLR (which is arguably just as hard?). I rode a century and two 50+ mile group rides the other week with no discomfort- and no chamois treatment or other hoodoo. Actually, my trick is to mix it up with the bibs- if I wear a Progetto pad one ride, I'll wear a differently padded bib on the next longer ride.|
|It's for heavy people...||PT|
May 8, 2003 10:32 AM
|...at least that was what I concluded years ago when I was skinny. I road it for 2 to 3k miles before tossing it, and I tried to soften it up with many things -- it always stayed rock hard. I hypothesized that it didn't work for me because I was a relative lightweight (~125 lbs). Now that I'm no longer in that category, it might work, but there are plenty of other high mileage saddles out there that aren't boat anchors...|
May 8, 2003 10:39 AM
|I have one on a cruiser bike, and while I love the looks on this particular bike, I hate the ride. I guess you have to work these things in, but I don't feel like sacrificing my butt on the Brooks altar. Why can't Brooks provide a pre-broken-in saddle, like Levis can provide pre-shrunk jeans?
It's still on the bike. I just never ride the bike anymore. I should probably sell it....
May 8, 2003 11:04 AM
|go to wallbike; you can buy the saddles other customers returned after 6 months. Reduced price for you AND partially or completely broken in.|
May 8, 2003 11:43 AM
|The first time I rode my B.Swift, I consciously noticed that it was hard as a rock....after that first 32 mile ride we returned to the parking lot and my bud asked me if I liked/hated the saddle..WOW!!!...32 miles and NEVER thought about the saddle after 10 minutes into the ride, or the discomforts that I had with other saddles....Prior to that, most of my rides were semi-spoiled by an 'uncofortable saddle'; of which I seemed to have spent a small fortune on by replacing saddles twice a year for about 15 years....I have the B. Swift on 2 road & 1 off-road bikes and will never switch...Fantastic for long rides of over 75m.....if you're concerned about trying one; I believe that Bill has a return policy....check him out @: http://www.wallbike.com/Products.html#Brooks
(you won't regret it.)
|I knew a guy...||Fredrico|
May 8, 2003 12:36 PM
|He rode hundreds of miles a week, training for some 500 mile or 24 hour endurance event. The one thing he was adamant about was his Brooks saddle. He claimed he would have been lost without it. The longer he rode on his Brooks, the more comfortable it became. Either his butt got shaped to the saddle or vice versa or both, and from then on it was smooth sailing. I took it that in order to be comfortable on a Brooks, you had to ride alot.|
|:) Every chance I can......||coonass|
May 8, 2003 12:58 PM
|(which is certainly not often enough....it's been raining every other day for the last 2 months..) I don't put in as many miles as your buddy, but it sure is nice to ride and only be concerned about the winds, cramps, climbs, next watering hole, etc. and but NEVER about the saddle being uncomfortable....|
|:) So there you have it, folks..||Fredrico|
May 8, 2003 1:40 PM
|once that Brooks and your butt gets broken in, they're friends for life. That's the advantage of leather over plastic.|
|The whole concept of my butt having a "friend for life" is...||Gregory Taylor|
May 8, 2003 1:50 PM
|...really rather, well, disturbing. Especially when it is being touted as one of the "advantages" of leather over plastic. Indeed.
Is it just me, or have the posts here become rather ass-centric lately? Right now, there must be at least 5 active threads discussing the merits of Brooks saddles, chamois creme, and other kiester-related conumdrums. Is there a proctologist in the house?
|re: I did||cyclopathic|
May 8, 2003 1:19 PM
|I only had on it 2 short rides-centuries so it never passed the break-in. My complain is not that it was hard /it was/ I didn't like the form. I have the tendency to slide back and forth on climbs/descents and the nose part of B-17 is too narrow to sit on and rear is too wide to get behind or squeeze with thighs. Basically it wasn't any advantage over my trusty Bontrager FS+10, rather opposite so I returned it back.|
|I know this is supposed to be about Brooks but||purplepaul|
May 8, 2003 1:23 PM
|has anyone tried the Saddleco Flow
Looks like it would be supremely comfortable (maybe even more so than my beloved Aliante).
|re: Anyone here ever try a Brooks and not love it??||Joe Nordic|
May 8, 2003 1:27 PM
|I tried a B-17 standard, and found that it was too wide
and rubbed too much against my legs. I am currently using a Koobi Silver, and I like it much better.
|Which model? B-17? Team Pro?||chipnseal|
May 8, 2003 2:35 PM
|I like the looks, but don't know which one would fit the big arse I have. I currently ride a Terry Fly which is just OK.
Any ideas or suggestions? Order both, ride 'em, and then return one?
|I have a Brooks Team Pro sitting in my closet...||DINOSAUR|
May 8, 2003 6:00 PM
|I had it on my Klein and used it off and on for about a season. First impression was that was as hard as a rock. After awhile it was like it wasn't there. Main disadvantage for me was weight, the saddle weighed about half as much as my frame. Second problem is that I could not get it far enough back in the rails to dial in with my geometry.I pulled it off my Klein and replaced it with a San Marco Era, which I loved, until the rails started to pull out of the back of the saddle. I replaced the Era with a Selle Italia Flite Gel, which I liked even more. My new bike has a San Marco Regal, which I really love. But the Brooks is still there, perhaps someday when I am totally bored out of my mind I will try it on my new bike. These saddles aren't for everyone, for some folks they are the only saddle that will work for them. If I were to go the Brooks route again, I'd go with a Swift, but for now the Regal is working well for me.|| |