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do people who ride live longer(18 posts)

do people who ride live longerishmael
May 5, 2003 1:19 PM
How are all the old pros doing. I wonder about breathing all the crap in the air. After races it sounds like everyone has bronchitis. What's the incidence of lung cancer. I'm really not too worried but I'm interested.
compared to other healthy people-not american fat asses nmishmael
May 5, 2003 1:29 PM
longer than what?mohair_chair
May 5, 2003 1:29 PM
How long are they supposed to live?
"People who ride" = Pros?elviento
May 5, 2003 1:44 PM
Pros do it to an extent that it's taxing on their health often times. But for you and me doing 5-10 bullsh*t hours each week, it only improves our health.
Agree and . . .ms
May 5, 2003 1:53 PM
Even if the current peloton is drug-free, it is clear that the pros have used all kinds of substances over the years to improve performance. One can only wonder how the longevity of the pros has been impacted by doping.
"People who ride" = Pros?Live Steam
May 5, 2003 5:10 PM
A cardiologist friend has told me that professional racers may end up suffering from enlarged hearts, as many high endurance athletes can and do. Not a good thing and not conducive to a long life.

A member of our club is originally from Italy and is in his mid 60s. He had many friends who were professional racers. I used the word "had" because many of them have passed on. He attributes it to blood doping and drug abuse in an attempt to stay competitive within the sport during the 60s and 70s. Will today's racers suffer the same fates? Time will tell.
"People who ride" = Pros?carbonxs
May 5, 2003 5:54 PM
Interesting point about athletes hearts - something I'd never thought about.

There's a pretty good bbc article which looks at the issue.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/840790.stm

Excerpts:
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New Scientist magazine reports that Dr Antonio Pelliccia, of the Institute of Sports Science in Rome, studied the routine electrocardiograms (ECGs) of 1,005 athletes from the Italian Olympic squad.

He found that 40% had a type of abnormal ECG that often reveals problems leading to premature heart failure.

Dr Pelliccia said that in most cases the apparently abnormal reading was due to the intensive training schedules, particularly common among those taking part in endurance events such as cycling and running.

[snip]

Using ultrasound scans to produce an image of the heart, he was able to show that the vast majority of athletes with abnormal ECGs had no problems.

But 5% had heart defects, mainly in their heart valves, that would not have been spotted from the ECG alone.

Dr Pelliccia believes that these valve defects, which are linked to the left ventricle, may result from the athletes' intensive training.

[snip]

"It's a nightmare for cardiologists," says Dr Philip Poole-Wilson, of London's Imperial College School of Medicine.

"The problem is, how do you distinguish between this and "athlete's heart", in which the heart is healthy and large from training?"
Pro riders dying cuz of excersise????stinkfoot247
May 5, 2003 6:01 PM
This post makes my mind wander. How about a pro rider who never took any "drugs". And what's with the enlarged heart deal. I was once told runners and endurance athletes hearts get very large. But was also told that you need to de-train your body. If you don't de-train it can lead to problems, and puts those who don't next in line to fat cigeratte smokers in heart attack risk. Well what if you trained very hard, very appropiately, with no drugs, and when your season was up you didn't just stop training altogether but trained to bring your heart back to a normal condition. I've got dreams of one day becoming a pro and what you guys say about dying early cuz of it really worries me.
Pro riders dying cuz of excersise????carbonxs
May 5, 2003 6:29 PM
i've been doing a websearch on this at google ("enlarged heart" athlete). You might want to have a look as well.

From what I've read, it's really not something to worry about. Enlarged heart can be due to heart disease such as hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (not cool) or a perfectly healthy adaption of the heart to repeated strenous exercise (cool!)

in sum, I really don't know what I'm talking about but glancing though the online medical literature it looks like we'll all be fine riding. of course, ask your doctor and he'll reassure you as well. Certainly there's a doctor on this board who'll tell us we're all being stupid and not to worry.
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Interesting stuff I found...

Athlete's Heart" is a physiologic adaptation of the heart to vigorousphysical training.It has not been shown to cause increased mortality, but this condition must be carefully distinguished from true heart disease. Often in attending physician statements, the term "athlete's heart " is used to describe many situations of heart enlargement - not allof which are truly benign athlete's heart syndrome

http://www.sourcebrok.com/athletesheart.pdf

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Apparently hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (HCM) is the cause of almost half (46%) of young athletes death. When you hear about some athlete dying on a football field, there's a good chance it's this. http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/2002/07_02/puffer.htm

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Although no cure for the disease exists, in some cases pacemakers can improve the condition. People with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy can lead normal lives. Symptoms can be regulated with medications, Kerber says. An enlarged heart doesn't always mean a person has hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, Kerber adds. "In serious competitive athletes, particularly those in endurance sports such as distance running, cycling, and swimming, the heart will enlarge on its own."

Commonly referred to as "athlete's heart" this increase in size is nature's way of adapting the heart to endurance exercises. "Unlike hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, this is a normal adaptation, not a disease," Kerber says.
http://www.vh.org/adult/patient/internalmedicine/prose/heartdisorder.html
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There's so much really fascinating stuff out there about this. Damn, being a doctor must be cool...
I sure willstinkfoot247
May 5, 2003 8:49 PM
yes it does sound interesting. Thanks for the links.
Pro riders dying cuz of excersise????al0
May 6, 2003 12:17 AM
De-training is not meant for interseasons time, it is meant for time after the end of career. For cycling it is not so serious as cyclist usually don't drop their riding completely and still riding for fun. BTW, I have participated in a 55-km race on hilly route at 1st of May (one of the open races that accomplish Rund um den Henninger Turm pro race) and one
b 84 years old man has participated and have finished in the middle of the pack (more than 200 participants).

In other race of that event, 85 km race on
b very hilly terrains
b 75-years old man have finished 49th from more than 1000 participants.

And ask how long they live :)
inspiring! nm.stinkfoot247
May 6, 2003 4:56 PM
One exampleMR_GRUMPY
May 5, 2003 4:44 PM
One of my friends, raced Pro back in the 50's. He raced on the other side of the pond for a few years, did some of the big time races, came home and continued to tear up the US circuit for another 6 years. He retired for twenty years before he started to ride again. He rode as a tourist for 12 years before he started to get the bug again. For the last 8 years he has won his share of races.
He's never had any health problems that could have been caused by cycling.
...too many variables and no guarentees but...Akirasho
May 5, 2003 5:49 PM
... Clair Duckham celebrated his 97th with a 44 mile ride (locally, an annual event... this year (for the second time) attended by the State Governor). Clair is one of the founding members of our local cycling club...



(pic scanned from the Dec 2001 issue of "Bicycling" magazine)

Be the bike.
enlarged heart conditionstinkfoot247
May 5, 2003 6:08 PM
What is it called, I would like to do some research on it. BTW check out the Post above me it is really inspiring.
Haven't I read that the life expectancy of a TDF winnerOldEdScott
May 6, 2003 4:39 AM
is significantly shorter than the average Joe? Or did I dream that?
DeadIFTreedog
May 6, 2003 6:21 AM
This poos sap was probably healthier than all of us put together.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/may03/may06news

All I can say is...this has nothing to do with the original post, but it still sucks.
DeadIFTreedog
May 6, 2003 6:22 AM
This poor sap was probably healthier than all of us put together.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/may03/may06news

All I can say is...this has nothing to do with the original post, but it still sucks.