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Doug, I think the LBL spoiler issue is ridiculous.(12 posts)

Doug, I think the LBL spoiler issue is ridiculous.chopper
Apr 29, 2003 12:36 PM
This is a race over 48 hours old and at the earliest will be on TV as part of OLN's Sportszone this Thursday. I'm willing to bet that not one person visits this board regularly who expects to be suprised on Thursday, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if OLN announces that *&^% wins LBL during its prologue to the program.

I personally think by being so politically correct you will end up driving more people away from the board than encouraging them to stay. There is a certain element on this board who come to it specifically to discuss racing.

Furthermore, I have a slow connection and prefer to know what the topic is before clicking on the link and this board has been notoriously slow in the past which discourages me even more. Do us all a favour and use some common sense on this subject and do the sponsors a favour and encourage people to come to the board.

P.S. My opinion would change if it was same day coverage or had a specific discussion group like the TDF.
I agreetarwheel
Apr 29, 2003 12:46 PM
It's not like the TDF or Gio where OLN has live coverage and nightly broadcasts. OLN isn't scheduled to broadcast its full LBL coverage until May 8. Good grief. If someone doesn't want to find out what happens until then, go live in a cave and stay off the internet. Personally, it doesn't bother me knowing what's gonna happen when I watch OLN coverage. If it did, I would staff off the cycling boards on the net.
Jan Ullrich wins TdF2004!!! - oooop sorry spoiler outside! (nm)phatlizard
Apr 29, 2003 11:52 PM
Tyler Won!RJF
Apr 29, 2003 12:54 PM
I agree that the issue is silly, with the exception of the TDF, which everyone here will want to watch same-day. That is, those lucky bastards with OLN. On second thought, maybe we can bar discussion of the TDF until I have the opportunity to buy and watch the WCS video?!?
Now you ruined everything!eschelon
Apr 29, 2003 1:00 PM
I was waiting until WCS was going to have that video ready in a few months from now.

Now what am I going to do now? Huh? Tell ME! Oh the humanity!!!!!!!
my thoughtsDougSloan
Apr 29, 2003 1:10 PM
First, I personally couldn't care less. Usually, I like to know right away.

However, this has been debated for several years. The overwhelming response was that it's perfectly ok to include spoiler information, but just not in the topic line, and label your topic line if you do. It's really very simple.

For the most part, even those like me who don't care about seeing results, still support the simple courtesy to accomodate those who do.

At this point, I'm not in debate mode, but in implementation mode. The Forum Guidelines, which I'm charged with implementing, state:

"In addition, as a courtesy to your fellow forum members, please follow these guidelines:

"Do not post race spoilers in the General Forum ..."

I agree there is a bit of discretion involved. Obviously, talking about Lance winning the Tour last year isn't spoiling anything. However, if an event is yet to run on television, I think we should err on the side of courtesy and not spoil, at least without a warning.

You certainly can include enough into in the topic line so that people with slow connections can know what's in the message, and still not spoil. "Winner of TdF (results)" would be an example.

Doug
PS: those who continue to violate the policies may have problemsDougSloan
Apr 29, 2003 1:12 PM
If you intentionally and repeatedly violate the Forum Guidelines, Gregg does have the ability to ban your IP. It's up to him.

Doug
agreed; pretty easy to put "spoiler" in a title. nmweiwentg
Apr 29, 2003 5:25 PM
No kidding its simple enough... call it courtesy(nm)flying
Apr 29, 2003 5:43 PM
Easy SolutionRJF
Apr 29, 2003 2:23 PM
While the "spoiler" rule is a very good idea that appears to be poorly applied and interpreted, there is an easy solution.

The spolier rule only applies to the General Forum. So, to discuss a race or an issue that may contain the name of someone who won a race that no one will see on television for at least a few days, just post it to the components or racing or other appropriate forum.
the spoiler rule applies everywhere imocollinsc
Apr 29, 2003 2:46 PM
Its really not that hard to put a warning or an otherwise informative subject on your post.

I, like doug, also dont care. I dont get OLN and hardly watch TV, so all my news comes from the web anyway. If its posted here, chances are I already know about it.

But, however, there are people who do care and revel in the anticpation. Its not hard for forum posters to respect that. This should be very easy.
the community begged for the rule, now live with repercussionsSpoiler
Apr 29, 2003 4:33 PM
I don't want to spoil the suprise ending to the War with Iraq for anybody who's not seen it yet, so I'm avoiding the non-cycling discussion board. I just hope CNN airs the replay soon. I can't resist temptation forever.