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Rowed/Rode/Road(9 posts)

Rowed/Rode/Roadblakester
Apr 23, 2003 10:06 PM
I am a high school competetive rower who has recently taken up road biking as a hobby, gut I noticed a lot fo similarities. It is a "race" sport involving close teamwork mental toughness as well as endurance+strength. Both sports are also primarily leg strength,and feature uncomfortable seats and tight shorts. Overall I think my crew background has helped my in this new sport. Any other roadies current or formers Crew team members (If so, you have any good anecdotes)? If not, was there another sport that you did before serous road cycling that may have helped you along the way?
re: Rowed/Rode/Roadmenoldr
Apr 24, 2003 5:12 AM
Former University of Michigan crew turned biker. I think the seats are worse in crew. I bought an erg after college and still use it to cross train in the winter. Riding on the trainer can get old. I noticed that when I ride I associate things I am doing with crew (power 10s, stroke rate, etc..). And, yes, I have lots of good crew stories.
re: Rowed/Rode/RoadSpiderman
Apr 24, 2003 7:25 AM
I was a rower in high school, 2 years of college, summers, crew camps, henley, coaching etc. I love cycling on many levels, i ride, worked in shops, worked as a rep, etc but nothing compares to the way i feel about crew. Last summer, i coached a little bit and trained for canadian henley (but unfortunately work interfered and I wasn't able to race) while simultaneously riding 150-200 miles/week. In that time, i found I could row and ride better due to the concurrent workouts. My recovery time became very quick, i lost a lot of weight (6'0" and 175 to 158/9, i was a lightweight rower) I had a ton of more energy (not that i was lacking before) and there was exponential strenth-growth in my legs.

Anyway, to make a getting-long story short, i love rowing and also find myself making similarities between sports (sometimes i think of the wheels as the fly wheel of the erg and the sound it makes). Ergs also make a great cross trainer although, a true cyclist probably may not like it because they would bulk up your upper body rather than make you scrawny like the pros.

I often wonder if there is a lot of overlap between cycling and rowing because they are so similar. It is nice to see people out there who used to row (there are few of us) and ride. I love both sports. I guess i didn't answer your question but rather rambled on about how i do both.
Yep - used to row at Oxford UniversityRich_Racer
Apr 24, 2003 10:17 AM
I cycled a little before I ever knew rowing, then rowing took over my life for several years and I hardly did anything else! Since giving up rowing about 2 years ago, I've taken up cycling more seriously. I totally agree about how similar the physiological and psycological requirements are. A cycle race is very different to a rowing race though (mainly due to the length), even if much of the training is similar. I still erg every now again - if only because it helps my back!

Cycling, I think, is generally more solitary than rowing - but I know what you mean. Rowing, to me, is the ultimate team sport.

Enjoy the rowing. I have to say I miss it from time to time!

Rich.
Questions for former rowerswaynebo
Apr 24, 2003 2:23 PM
I started to row in July 01 as a cross-training tool to road cycling. I love it. I row year round and wonder how many meters does a rower do per week. My best 2000m piece is 7:11 (I weigh 149 and I'm 42) and I want to break 7 minutes. Any suggestions.
Questions for former rowersblakester
Apr 24, 2003 6:13 PM
That is a good time for a 2k test on the erg (torture chamber) it's mostly leg strength and endurance. In terms of tips.. are you wanting tips for erg times? As to meters per week, it depends with our team on the weather, we always go out on the water if its nice enough to (no white caps)
Questions for former rowerswaynebo
Apr 25, 2003 7:24 AM
1. Tips for good erg times--I'm nowhere near a suitable river/rowing club
2. I row anywhere from 30,000m to 50,000m per week (plus I cycle 100-200 miles/wk). It is easy to ride 10 hours per week. If I rowed (and did not cycle) 10 hours per week, that would be about 140,000m or about 85 miles--that seems too much. Supposedly, rowing is like running--very time efficient, whereas cycling requires alot of saddle time and swimming even more time than cycling (I'm an ex-swimmer). Thoughts?
Questions for former rowersal0
Apr 25, 2003 7:39 AM
I'm a former rower (took the second-best on student championship and on rowingmarathon championship of my former country, Ukraine, in 70s) and rowing coacher (rowers that I have coached have won Soviet Union junior championship and at that moment SU was the second-best rowing country in the world, early 80s).

The total meters per week mean nothing as such. The most important thing is how your load is organised (intensity, recovery etc.).

I would admit that rowing and cycling have a lot of common, but load in rowing is higher, shorter and involve the whole body (roughly 70% legs, 20% back, 10% arms, dependt on boat type - single-oar or eight).
Questions for former rowersSpiderman
Apr 25, 2003 8:18 AM
I am ex-swimmer too (hated that damn sport). In cycling you definately need saddle time, but you can also tie in weight training in there nicely. I'd say the same thing with rowing though. To be truly comfortable, and attain competition-level fitness (which may not be your goal), you should spend lots of time on the erg. As with cycling you will get your physical "plateaus" that only come with erging/cycling and building up your base.

Tips for a good erg time? erg lots same with anything, get comfortable with it. Try and do some steady state through the week (2x20 mins, 4x15 mins, 2x30mins or something like that), lactic acid threshold training 1-2 days (1 min on 1 min off, :45 on, :15 off), and them some medium stuff (4x10mins, etc). There are tons of erg workouts if you go to www.row2k.com or www.rowersworld.com and do a little bit of research.

those are just my thoughts, someone else out there probably has a different opinion and some other good ideas. As around, use the two rower websites mentioned above to get you started.