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LSD or SPEED(10 posts)

LSD or SPEEDoui19
Apr 23, 2003 8:18 PM
Long Steady Distance with one or two fast group rides per week or just go all out for an hour everyday? Which is the norm and best for overall fitness in cycling?
I'm partial to booze :-) (nm)Horace Greeley
Apr 24, 2003 5:48 AM
Too much LDS back in college...Matno
Apr 24, 2003 9:19 AM
To quote Captain Kirk from one of the Star Trek movies. Can't remember which one, but it's the only one I've seen. (And yes, he did say "LDS" not LSD).

For overall fitness, it's good to mix things up. My local "group" (now up to 4) does 35 miles on Tuesday, 20 on Thursday, and 40-60 on Saturdays. We go pretty darn fast on Tues, all out on Thurs, and then whatever we feel like on the weekends (which is often with larger groups), but usually fast enough to wipe us out for a day or two...
Brigham Young grad, are ya?!? ;-P (nm)RhodyRider
Apr 24, 2003 12:11 PM
Well, I wasn't really referring to myself with that one...Matno
Apr 24, 2003 2:49 PM
...but yep. I graduated there. Heck, I liked it so much I did it twice! (Actually, I just stuck around to fulfill my duty to find a wife, marry, and have lots of kids...)


Great place. Millions of miles and a world apart from NYC where I live now! I mostly miss the mountains, but it would be nice to be around friendly people again...
Check out this article....DINOSAUR
Apr 24, 2003 9:31 AM
I stopped subscribing to Bicycling Magazine a couple of years ago. But in my never ending quest to read stuff about anything to do about bikes and fitness I stumbled on this article on their website.

Scroll down page to: 'Training Center' 'More Training Articles' then 'Easy Rider'

You might find that info useful....
here's the explicit linkJS Haiku Shop
Apr 24, 2003 12:16 PM,5073,3283,00.html?category_id=363
re: LSD or SPEEDFredrico
Apr 24, 2003 12:10 PM
That's an interesting article in Bicycling's website.

In other words, if you go out and ride all-out all the time, your body will always be tired from the day before. You'll get "stale." Going fast will be harder and harder. You're muscles, circulatory system, nerves, lungs, heart, all need time to recover between challenges, regenerate, and get stronger for the next challenge.

Listen to your body. If you feel great, go for it. If you feel okay but your legs don't want to pedal, take an easy spin. If you feel tired and worn out, take the day off. People who go out every day and just do the same workout, level off and don't get very fast, or fit.
Good points...DINOSAUR
Apr 24, 2003 1:30 PM
I'm kinda a "newbie/retro grouch" rolled into one. I stopped cycling completely in 1990 and I started back up again after I retired 4 years ago. I'm going on my 4th season, minus 40 pounds and about 20,000 miles in my legs.
If you want to go long and slow, then you will be good for long slow rides. If you want speed, then you have to work on sprinting. If you want to become a better climber you have to climb a lot of hills, if you want to descend fast, then you have to learn about position and balance. If you want to ride a pace line then you have to ride with groups, and so on.

Cycling is sort of like lifting weights. The only way you get stronger is my increasing the load and learn to listen to your body and know when it's time to back off, and when you can increase the workload. Genetics plays a part also, we all can't be Eddy Merckx's or Lance Armstrong's.

The answer I found is out there on the road and by just doing a lot of riding and sooner or later it all comes to you. You can take shortcuts for somethings, but nothing is better than experience and I'm still in the learning department. When you stop learning then it's time to lay down and die....

My $.02 anyway.......
Cycling's amazing subtleties...Fredrico
Apr 25, 2003 11:25 AM
Who was it, Eddy Merckx, who answered the wannabe's question on how to be like Eddy? "Ride lots." A great racer, an "all rounder," is adaptable. He can deliver what it takes to climb, TT on the flats, chase, sprint all-out, in the same workout session. It's as much mental as physical. Some riders can dig deep into their reserves, overcome pain and anguish, often surprising themselves. Others challenge themselves only to a point, and never find their true potentials.

There's wisdom in varying the training routine. It's amazing how the body and mind so quickly adapt to a style of riding, even a particular course, that is often painfully apparent when in a new situation, like a group ride, catered tour, or race.

Have a great weekend!