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That was a great ride. Thanks for yesterday's replies.(12 posts)

That was a great ride. Thanks for yesterday's replies.Kristin
Apr 22, 2003 6:23 AM
At 5:05am I threw off the covers because I was hot. This confused Smokey, who now thought it was time for breakfast. With fading hope for another hour of zzzzz's, I got up and decided I'd leave 4 of my 6 wheels in the driveway today. I also decided to lighten up by removing the HRM and computer from Bernardo. What a difference. I had a really nice ride. There were times when I needed to be focused on traffic, but otherwise I was able to pedal along at my own pace, forget about keeping up appearances, and just enjoy breathing. I caught myself glancing toward the empty computer clip from time to time, and I'm sure it will take a while to deprogram; but there were entire miles that I let go of my compulsions and simply enjoyed myself. I haven't done that for a while.

I was ungodly slow however. I rode 13 mile and it appears to have taken me 1:20-1:30 to complete. I was surprised--I'd expected an hour tops. But that tells me something. The days I ride with the computer, I'm working too hard.

Oh, I want you to meet my new roommate. His name is Smokey and he really is a lousy roommate by all accounts. He doesn't pay any rent, insists on sleeping in my bed. He demands attention on his terms alone and gets upset if I don't focus on him enough. I do all the cooking and cleaning, and on top of all that, he expects me to pay all of his doctor bills--which are many. But I can't bring myself to toss him out. ;-)
Smokey sounds like a dead-beat husband! :-) nmTower
Apr 22, 2003 6:45 AM
Life with no computer is fine for me.dzrider
Apr 22, 2003 7:03 AM
I gave mine up after a truly beautiful autumn ride. I turned into my driveway feeling elated and grateful to be able to enjoy such a wonderful ride. I pushed the stop button and was saddened that I had spent 75 minutes doing a ride that I usually do in 72. I figured out that the three minutes had been more fun not less and that my value system was not what I wanted it to be. I took the computer off.

A few months later I put it back on to help measure a course for a proposed charity ride but I couldn't get it to work. With considerable relief I threw it away.

I wanted to reply to your posts yesterday about base miles and heart rates that the strongest base for training is the enjoyment of riding. I was kind of busy and didn't get the chance but you seem to have found it without my help. Take heart, you're on the right track and many people are much slower early in the morning.
No Computer for me!!!teoteoteo
Apr 22, 2003 7:39 AM
Last year I needed to be in shape for 20 days in France as a guide for a Tour company. I had some base but need to add better form. A retired Cat 3 and Expert Mtb'er I had given up full-time racing around 2000 for the hairy-legged pursuit of riding for fun.

As I started to train I opted for no computer and just ride based on hours in the saddle. I never counted miles back in the day but always obsessed about avg speed/Heartrate etc.

In only a month with no computer my form was stellar as my focus was my rides and not over-ANAL-yzing data. I was riding a level that far exceeded what I expected. I would do all of the local hard training races/rides to make sure my engine was good.

One very funny moment was a hard traing ride where I made the front split with a few strong Cat 2's. After the ride one guy in particular that I have known for years later questioned about my form--he is a total data junky--SRMS, powertaps, you name it. Anyway he was really tweaked when I told him I just dedcided to get the most quality out my training rides by listening only to how I felt during my rides. He admitted he kept looking back expecting me to explode like years past and when I didn't...

I think data is good but I personally discovered I train better without and only test from time to time to confirm that things are working for me. None of this I guess should be earth shattering but just a testament to a simpler plan that brought me to a new "old" way of doing things.
Monitors and Smokeynealrab
Apr 22, 2003 7:28 AM
I smiled at your post this AM -- Brought back fond memories of "our" Smokey. Not quite a Russian Blue, but all grey and a fab disposition, we lost his physical company almost 2 years ago after a great 13 year odyssey with him. He was a great cat who did learn to ride with me (used a Kelme catike TT helmet) on his Look 381. Also cleaned up his own litter box and occasionally made French toast for us (now, of course, the French toast is politically incorrect). So, don't get discouraged by your Smokey's lack of participation right now. He'll come around. BTW, I've looked at HRMs, computers etc. a couple of times, but always decided that I'd lose something about the ride if I got to that level (whether higher or lower I'm not sure).
If riding is a spiritual experience, I prefer to leave the techno/training part of it aside, since I'm rather non-competitive (at least in the cycling arena). Quality of the rides has always been high, don't feel I'm missing much without counting revs, HB, time.
Enjoy the ride. Hi to Smokey!
re: That was a great ride. Thanks for yesterday's replies.toomanybikes
Apr 22, 2003 10:27 AM
You know, I remember when I clocked mileage with a little mechanical gadget mounted on the front fork and a striker on the spoke.

Computers came out and I got one, now I could track distance and speed.

Then CAdence.

Then HRM's.

I used to measure my riding simply by the number of hours I was out, I never planned distance or speed or cadence or intervals or .....

I went out and planned and measured strictly by number of hours.

Now I have a computer, and a HRM and I can load info into the PC and I can see all sorts of data.

Thing is I am not the least bit sure that it has made me any better a cyclist or that I am any fitter ( even adjusting for age) than when things were simpler.

I have taken to doing the same thing. Leave the measuring gadgets at home, and go for a ride. It's kind of fun that way.
I promise this is the last comparison.Iamhoosier
Apr 22, 2003 12:00 PM
Besides the similarities I made yesterday, my wife and I also have a cat(Higgins). Thanks for the ride report, you may have saved me some future hassle. Gosh, you are in IL and I am in IN, both midwe.........oh yeah, the promise. Ride careful.
Beware of lazy roomiesTig
Apr 22, 2003 12:11 PM
Here's 2 of mine, Nub (a bobtail) and Cali.
They don't even like bikes!
Oooh! Kute Kitties!Dale Brigham
Apr 22, 2003 12:28 PM
Are they littermates? I have heard (and it is my experience) that few adult cats other than littermates buddy up like that.

I'd have to duct-tape my two boys (Lester and Lil' Red) together to get them posed for a photo like that. However, my guys do occasionally 'wrassle' and dismember little victim animals together as a team.

Seriously, nice photos and nice kitties (Smokey, too, Kristin!).

Apr 22, 2003 1:18 PM
They were both adopted at different times. Both are female. They've always gotten along really well. The left one is an American Bobtail and weighs just 6 pounds. The right one is a Norwiegen Forrest Cat and weighs a whopping 15 pounds (big bones). I've never seen such affectionate kitties. They are even more affectionate to us humans.

Um, oh yeah... this is a cycling board so I have to make this cycling specific...

I think I'll go riding today. There, bases are covered!
you wanna talk about jealous!?toomanybikes
Apr 22, 2003 1:31 PM
Of the bike that is!

I know it's hard to imagine but they do get excited when I come home!
Too cuteKristin
Apr 22, 2003 12:44 PM
Smokey is very suspicious of Bernardo (my bike) and steers clear of him as much as possible.