Apr 21, 2003 9:39 AM
|We all know they're out there: Road riders who have the full on "image" thing working. Why is this? Is it some type of psuedo-euro American denouncement? Is it the tight clothing, creating both homoerotic issues as well as less than optimal circulation? Is it some type of delusional mind frame, akin to schizophrenia, which makes them believe that they really ARE in the TdF?
This weekend, riding down Mt. Diablo, tons of cars, bikes, hikers (beautiful day). I'm going 23-25 in a 20 zone, because of heavy traffic. Guy, in full race kit and no helmet (of course), goes by six inches off my shoulder with no warning at about 35-40mph. I'm pissed, follow him to the junction and ask "do you think a little warning, like, "on your left" makes sense today?"...I get a very brief nod, before the guy dismisses me and begins to obsess with his water bottle.
|If you are feeling "homoerotic," its only your issue. (nm)||onespeed|
Apr 21, 2003 10:06 AM
|To paraphrase Hanlon's Razor...||joekm|
Apr 21, 2003 10:08 AM
|Never attribute to snobbery that which can be explained by ignorance.
Sounds more to me like he was just careless.
Apr 21, 2003 10:12 AM
|Addressing only the "on your left" issue -- I've found that about 50% of the time, someone hears only the "left" part of "on your left," and swerves right in front of me. If someone is holding a straight line, I just pass, but maybe with a little more room than you describe.
|when in doubt||Fez|
Apr 21, 2003 10:19 AM
|you could just yell pass! if the person doesn't swerve, then i pass on the left.
you really have to judge each individual situation.
when I see a young teenager with headphones and riding all over the place w/o hands on the bars, i yell pass, see what the heck he is going to do (probably won't hear me with the headphones)
then i pass when its clear.
Apr 21, 2003 10:22 AM
|I've started just saying "rider" or "rider back."|
|judgment call||The Human G-Nome|
Apr 21, 2003 10:39 AM
|exactly. on the GG Bridge, i don't dare yell "on your left". it's an invitation for the rider in front of me to swerve into my line. i just pass as safely as possible instead. if i'm on a cycling only spot or a climb however, i'll always yell on your left. if there's plenty of room and no traffic, i'll say "good afternoon/morning".|
|Yeap we are all queer!||phatlizard|
Apr 21, 2003 10:27 AM
|And sure enough we all want to be frenchman and act like a bunch of rude waiters in a Paris bar ... ! |
Hell yes we are snobs - and if you look close enough you can see the sun shining out of our butt!
Not every roadie in a Campy-outfit is a ignorant idiot and not ever kid in baggy shorts is a Freeride-punk!
Free your mind - and the rest will follow!
P.S.: .... okay I admit every waiter in Paris is rude!!!
P.P.S.: This thread should be fun to read in an hour or so ...
|Why the focus on my one comment re: homoerotic?||mwood|
Apr 21, 2003 10:30 AM
|BTW, I was in my Colnago kit, at the time :-)|
|One more good reason to have a bell on your bike. nm||MB1|
Apr 21, 2003 10:35 AM
Apr 21, 2003 10:37 AM
|It was the one single time he passed someone and didn't yell it. Do you every single time you pass someone? Not me. It's impossible. There are some rides where nodding to a rider on the other side of the road gets just ridiculous and I forget about doing so completely.
No snobbery thing here. I wear my team kit because all my older stuff is worn out and in use only in my spin classes. We change our kit enough due to sponsor changes that I've got a large bunch of them. Homoerotic and not good for circulation? Not for me.
I've done enough racing to know I'm not in the TdF and will never be.
Have fun out there!
|I guess I should have put a :-) in the original post...||mwood|
Apr 21, 2003 10:45 AM
|While I do think proper etiquette calls for some overtaking signal and don't like to see people endangering others, please recognize my attempt at satire/sarcasm.
Just making a little fun of one of the more curious aspects of road bike culture.
And please don't let my wife know that I used the word "homoerotic"...
Apr 21, 2003 11:40 AM
|...your husband used the word 'homoerotic' - twice.
As for that rider, if he can pass you at 40 mph (that's close to 65 km/h, for our non-metric-impaired audience.), I say, he can go whereever he damn pleases.
|A non-cyclists viewpoint.....||asphalt assault|
Apr 21, 2003 12:04 PM
|My sister in-law sometimes bike rides a local paved trail with her two small children and seems to think it's rude of cyclists to "shout" on your left. I asked, what do you want them to say... get out da way, I'm coming through?
I generally don't say anything, I just blow by giving them as much room as possable. Little kids especially will tend to turn and look your way when they hear you and they will steer right in front of you when they do this.
I'v seen cyclists (enthusiast types like us) get rather irritated that they have to break their pace to avoid other trail users...skaters, gram & gramps out strolling etc. I think they need to lighten up and realize that most of these trails are multi-use and with us being the fastest things out there, we need to give others right of way. If it bothers you to back off for others, do your ride early in the morning when there is little traffic.
|re: roadie snobs/wannabe's||Fredrico|
Apr 21, 2003 12:11 PM
|The guy was a jerk, no question, and he's the tip of the iceberg. These testosterone crazed yahoos feeling good on their trick rides, just have to sparr with someone. So there you are, going at a nice clip on your trick ride, provide a perfect target for him to assuage all his insecurities, and shine as only a TDF god could, just smashing the "competition." Happened to me at least four times yesterday--on a bike path. That's a big part of cycling, isn't it?|
|Big part of cycling and practically everything else in life...||fliparagon|
Apr 21, 2003 3:48 PM
|like the guy who blows by you in his brand new convertible while you are stuck with the slow moving mini-van and the kiddie seat in the back. Ignore the bastard. If his fantasy of being "the" cyclist on the block gives him a moment of "satisfaction" in his otherwise dreary life, let him enjoy it.|
|And if he didn't pass you...||pnitefly|
Apr 22, 2003 7:22 AM
|...and just sat on your wheel you'd say "look at this poser in his full race kit sitting on my wheel!" He probably should have said "on your left" or something but at 20-25 mph it is hard to hear things above the wind whooshing through your ears. So, he could've said something maybe you didn't hear. Either way, I think you are wrapped too tight about it. Sh*t happens...ride on.|| |