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Is World Cycling Productions out of control?(16 posts)

Is World Cycling Productions out of control?Spoiler
Apr 18, 2003 3:32 PM
Now I realize that if people have the money, they are free to spend it the way they choose, but this willingness to blow a year's salary on overpriced bike stuff is starting to cut into the selection that's available to more reasonably minded consumers. I wish I would have saved the very first WCP catalog I got a couple years ago so I could compare the prices of their most and least expensive components. Here's what they currently offer in the print catalog.
$80 Colagno Pens,
$220 bibs, (cheapest they offer cost$100),
Assos Short Sleeve Jersey's increase in price from $99 to $125
Not one but TWO different waterbottle cages costing $90
Three stems costing almost $300, (only two stems offered cost under $100)
Six of the eight seat posts they offer cost over $120, one at $180
Three handlebars over $250 (one at $400 and one at half a grand)
Cheapest tire they offer is $48, less than a couple years ago that would be the most expensive.
Three saddles over $160, four pedals over $250
Sidi Genius 4's are the cheapest shoe they sell at $190 Anybody remember when the Giro Boreas or whatever was the price king of helmets at a wopping $120? Well now the cheapest helmet WPC sells is $130 with ALL others at least $160.
re: Is World Cycling Productions out of control?DaveG
Apr 18, 2003 3:43 PM
While I don't really disagree with you I'm not sure why this makes WCP the bad guys - if the customers buy it why shouldn't they sell it?
Bought bib shorts on sale @$19.95 from them 2 wks ago (nm)geeker
Apr 18, 2003 4:08 PM
You should visit their store!filtersweep
Apr 18, 2003 4:30 PM
-such that it is...

They DO stock a ton of high end stuff in a variety of sizes and colors- most shops don't.
I've never been there, is it worth a trip ? (nm)Scot_Gore
Apr 18, 2003 5:46 PM
I've never been there, is it worth a trip ? (nm)gs6769
Apr 19, 2003 3:28 AM
I'd certainly stop by. They usually have a pretty full rack of clothes at decent sale prices. Lots of Castelli the last time I was there.
It is worth a trip!ManBehindTheCurtain
Apr 19, 2003 4:54 AM
Have you really been there? Clothes? Sure, a couple of small racks. But the attraction at this place is the frames on the wall. Ever had a hankering for a Colnago but just weren't sure just exactly what this color or that color would look like in person? Well, there must be at least 75 Colnago frames hanging from the walls in the small showroom area at WCP, C-40's, Master X-Lites, CT1's, Dreams, they are all there in multiples. Only two built up bikes in evidence but they are a Carbonissimo and a CF Ferrari, both parked in the middle of the room. With one of the WCP videos playing on a monitor in the corner, the background ambience is Phil and Paul describing a stage of le Tour. Yes, it is worth the trip.
It is worth a trip!filtersweep
Apr 19, 2003 6:10 AM
The clothes on the racks are usually one-of-a-kind clearance stuff that they don't bother listing online- but like you said, the real draw is the volume of frames hanging around.

I was told they do their own builds there as well, but I'd be a bit nervous, since they really aren't an LBS.

Speaking of "behind the curtain"- I'd really like to know what IS behind the curtain at WCP- I have a feeling the public area is just the tip of the iceberg.
"behind the curtain" and uh....yeah.gs6769
Apr 20, 2003 7:49 AM
Indeed I've ventured into that mystical realm beyond. I bought a pair of shoes there about closing time once and the clerk in the retail area was on the phone, hence one of the wrenches took me 'backstage' to run my credit card. Not too exciting really, a few cubicles apparently used for taking phone orders and the usual office equipment. Beyond that, what appears to be a full service shop. I suppose it's correct to say they're not a 'LBS' as the shop area is really for building the bikes they sell online etc.
To the poster who asks whether I've been there; Yes.
re: Is World Cycling Productions out of control?The Human G-Nome
Apr 18, 2003 7:47 PM
i have no idea why anyone in their right mind would shop there. if you're going to pay those prices then shop at your LBS. you can buy Look 396s and Sidi Energys right now at totalcycling for $163 U.S with 15 bucks for shipping. it's like you're getting the pedals for free and STILL saving money compared to WCP. their tires are also half the price. your right, that place must be smokin' crack.
re: Is World Cycling Productions out of control?flying
Apr 18, 2003 9:38 PM
I just got my Castelli 2003 stratoflex gloves 24.95 & Domo-Farm Frites Windtex winter hat 19.95 today. now is the time to buy winter stuff ;-)
They also only charge 6.70 for UPS to Hawaii got it in 3 days.
I agree the catalogs sound high but man their sales are great. Remember last year I think they sold Zipp 303's at the end of 2002 for 550.00 per set. Or was it 595? Anyway just watch the site & buy the stuff when its on sale the prices are great & the service is too. Remember the catalog is printed so reflects their standard prices with very few sales.

That all said I also agree with another post & bought my Look 381i at Total cycling great guys too.
so shop at Nashbar nmDougSloan
Apr 19, 2003 6:20 AM
To elaborate:MXL02
Apr 19, 2003 7:03 AM
As Mr. Sloan, ever the silver tongued devil, has implied, if you don't like it, just shop somewhere else. Many of us with the means, enjoy spending some of our hard earned cash on top end equipment...it makes the weekend ride, something we've busted our a$$ to enjoy, that much more enjoyable. Are these top end items really worth it??? Well yesterday I rode a "short" 46 miler due to time constraints, and for some reason wore a cheap pair of riding shorts that I usually use for commuting. My butt hurt so bad, I seriously thought I needed to get a new saddle. Today, I rode to the office to catch up on some paper work, and rode my commuter with a new Brooks B-17 saddle on it that I am trying to break in. After yesterday, I was terrified to get on it, but the difference was I wore my new $160 Castelli shorts...absolutely no pain at all. Most of the time you get what you pay for.

As for WCP- yes they sell only top end stuff at high prices, but they also routinely have specials that I think are the best anywhere, like Vittoria Open Corsas for $38, Or a Polar 720 for list price with a Cadence sensor thrown in for free. Check the specials and get on their email list. They are a good shop.
YOU SPENT $160 ON SHORTS!!??Sintesi
Apr 19, 2003 7:07 PM
Hope they were at least bibs and came with a set of tires.

Just kidding. ;)
YOU SPENT $160 ON SHORTS!!??MXL02
Apr 22, 2003 5:44 AM
One of the down sides of being a clydesdale with a hippo sized ass...need to have lots of good padding.
re: Is World Cycling Productions out of control?harry hall
Apr 20, 2003 8:43 AM
It's potentially GOOD for cycling--to wit, the more rich folk ride bikes, and I'm not talking doctor/lawyer well-paid working stiffs, but real upper 0.5% types, the people who buy and sell newspapers and TV stations, elections and politicians, the better conditions will get for the rest of us. It benefits all cyclists to have people who have the leverage to directly change society riding bikes. I look forward to the day when the fat-cat's fave toy is a C-40 instead of a Hummer!