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Good news the Easter weekend: Chocolate is good for you!(17 posts)

Good news the Easter weekend: Chocolate is good for you!Kristin
Apr 18, 2003 5:37 AM
Or so these folks say. Okay, so they are the folks at the chocolate manufacturers association. But what the who, it can probably sustain my denial for the weekend! Happy egg hunting! ;-)
So, the easter basket is just like a trip to the spa... (nm)KeeponTrekkin
Apr 18, 2003 5:40 AM
Oh, and that report about Carmel Frapacinno's having 1000 cals was grossly exhageratedKristin
Apr 18, 2003 5:40 AM
I picked one up this morning and jotted down the nutritional value at the store. Though I've never seen so many carbs packed into so few calories before. Here's the skinny:

Grande (16 oz)
350 calories
9 grams F
6 saturated
35 chol
61 carbs (Youch!)
2 g's fiber
6 g protien
15% calcium
Oh, yes...this includes the whipped cream and carmel drizzle. nmKristin
Apr 18, 2003 5:41 AM
So it's health food then?ColnagoFE
Apr 18, 2003 6:30 AM
That's as many calories as my typical breakfast shake and I get about 40 grams of protein with far less carbs. I'll stick to the black coffee. Stay away from thje Tazoberry and cream though: Large Tazoberry and Cream (24 oz) 750 cals 34.5 total fat 22.5 saturated
Hey, don't burst my bubble! ;-DKristin
Apr 18, 2003 6:34 AM
Yeah, I know. I don't even think that white bread has that many carbs per calorie. No, very unhealthy indeed. I get to have ONE frap a month--and only the 12 ounce.
Hey, don't burst my bubble! ;-Dflying
Apr 18, 2003 11:56 AM
I always wonder exactly when carbs became such the bad thing.
I mean I used a 20%fat 25% protein & 55% carb diet the whole time I competed & trained for Tri's & a few bike races.
I mean that was awhile ago but still I was very fit 145# lean I even had a complete body check at the time & I was at 7% body fat...So I tend to think if your training like a animal you can use the carbs especially in endurance type sports.
Has this all changed with the new training? I dont really keep up with diets anymore & could lose 5# of fat Im sure;-)
I think it depends on the type of carbsKristin
Apr 18, 2003 12:35 PM
Carbs that are derived mostly from sugar are not good for you unless you need blood sugar on demand. Otherwise, it just get stored as fat. Can someone tell me what the bad carb is? Simple or complex?
There are no BAD carbsColnagoFE
Apr 18, 2003 1:04 PM
Very simply...simple carbs are something like pure glucose or GU packets or white bread. Throw the glycemic index out the window when you are racing or putting in a long sustained effort. You want fuel and you want it now. Then again if you are sitting in your office chair snacking on Gummi Bears it will cause a big insulin spike, your body will determine the energy is not needed right now and store it as fat and then you will crash from the sudden insulin spike and probably crave even more candy. Complex carbs like brown rice (as opposed to white) whole wheat bread (as opposed to white) will digest somewhat slower so they don't cause the sudden increases in insulin that simple carbs do. Protein is needed for building muscle and recovery of damaged muscle among other things so it's good to have foods high in protein after an intense effort to recover well. Protein is not the best fuel for endurance activities though--carbs are much easier for your body to use as fuel--but your body CAN run on protein and fats if it has no other options. Just not very well. And you will feel very sluggish as a result--contrary to what Atkins (low carb guru who just died) says--at least in my personal experience.
Thanks. That was a good explainationKristin
Apr 18, 2003 1:14 PM
Especially with regard to the intensity stuff. So many people eat pasta AFTER the ride. But I wonder if it would be better to eat past before and plain grilled chicken breast after.
I think it depends on the type of carbsflying
Apr 18, 2003 1:17 PM
Showing my age now but....I remember a film clip of Greg Lemond on a training ride where he stops in like a 7-11 store & comes out with twinkies & ding dongs etc.
He was serious about eating them too.
I agree though depends on carb type. I am a bread nut I love breads all kinds.
Of course, you have to buy the bestContinental
Apr 18, 2003 6:50 AM
Cheap chocolates are full of hydrogenated oils with trans fatty acids. The best chocolates don't use this cheap filler. Read the labels! And have a nice glass of dry red wine with a good quality dark chocolate. It's one of the many sacrifices I endure for my health.
Mmmm.. Valrhona52-16SS
Apr 18, 2003 6:55 AM
Mmmm.. Valrhona (nm)52-16SS
Apr 18, 2003 6:55 AM
So you mean all those Palmer Easter eggs I've been eatingKristin
Apr 18, 2003 10:00 AM
are bad for me?!?!!! *Gasp*
Well, if you're gonna do it, you might as well do it right!Ken of Fresno
Apr 18, 2003 8:45 AM
WARNING! The following links are very high in caloires.
(looks like Ganache is getting a lot of business today - very slow)

Apr 18, 2003 9:45 AM
I've never seen anything like that stuff. The Ganache site is basically slowed to non-working status at this point. It is simply not working for me right now. (T1/frame relay)