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Flight Deck question(8 posts)

Flight Deck questionJakle
Apr 17, 2003 5:19 PM
I changed the right lever on my bike and connected the flight deck control that was hooked up to my old lever. However, I can't get the sensor that shows what gear I'm in to work. Any clues here?

Thanks,

Jake
re: Flight Deck questionBaadDawg
Apr 17, 2003 6:05 PM
This may be a dumb question to ask but the newer sti levers flitedeck compatible are 6510. The levers that are a bit older are the 6501.

The newest flitedecks 6501 are compatible with the 6510 sti levers.

The older flitedecks 6500 are compatible with the 6501 sti levers. Is it possible your new lever is not the same version as the older one?

Leave it to Shimano Flitedeck to make a mess of the numbers. The instruction manual is just as confusing.

Thankfully the computer itself is easy to get used to and work with.
Happened to me-filtersweep
Apr 18, 2003 3:47 AM
I paid the LBS the $15 for installation and it was a great investment- they spend hours chasing down the SAME problem, tried swapping out all sorts of units, and ended up replacing the shifter under warranty- and THEN it finally worked.

Clues? Only clue is the FlightDeck is a nightmare and best left to the pros to sort out ;) It is the most overpriced computer in existence.
These things are a pain. Couple of things to try...TFerguson
Apr 18, 2003 5:58 AM
There is little spacer that goes under the contact on the levers before you install the piece from the bracket. They come with the bracket and are not mentioned in the instructions.

Also, when you are assembling the bracket to lever connection, have the head unit attached and working. Tighten the two screws slowly doing each about a quarter turn at a time. Watch for the gear indicator to start working. There will be a very narrow "torque range" in which it works. Tighten more and it will quit again.

Third thing to try is to remove the whole thing and place in trashcan. If I didn't have so much invested in them....

One of mine currently looses the gear indication if I press the area around the button rather than just the button. Like when riding with heavy gloves because I live in the Midwest. To get it back I have to pull up on the front of the hood. Took a while to figure that one out.

TF
What they said, and...Matno
Apr 18, 2003 6:28 AM
If your new lever is a different version, chances are that the connections inside it are different than what you had before. Some Flight Deck setups do not have the gear indicator capability. I believe that all current ones do, but if your levers are not a matching set, you may have a heck of a time trying to get it to work (and eventually decide that it's impossible). Unfortunately, the chances of that are kind of high.

If, on the other hand, your levers DO match and it's just not picking up, there is one possible fix that hasn't been mentioned. My wireless mounting bracket came with four little square two-sided stickers that you can use "just in case" your connectors don't touch each other. You put them on the little "flap" just below the connection points and it holds them tightly against the corresponding terminal. The instructions on this in the manual were pretty unclear, but that's what they're for. If you don't have any of these, your LBS probably does, or you could just buy some 2-sided tape at a regular store. The squares are only about 3-4mm across.

Good luck! I have my harness all mounted up, but my computer head was misdelivered thanks to a UPS mistake. After 3+ weeks of waiting, it should arrive today...
Got it working thanks...Jakle
Apr 18, 2003 7:24 AM
for all the tips. It was a delicate operation. The connection between the lever and plate is a tricky one indeed.

Thanks again,

What they said, and...BaadDawg
Apr 18, 2003 8:12 AM
Good luck with the manual when it comes to programming the little beast. It's fairly simple but the instructions leave you to basically hit and miss. Lots of hitting the AC button (all clear) before getting it right.

Once you have done it though its set it and forget it.
There's a lot of misinformation here.Spoke Wrench
Apr 18, 2003 9:15 AM
The connections of the first generation and second generation Flite Deck shifters are the same. The only difference is in the brake hoods. The older ones have two button bumps on the right brake hood, newer ones have one button bump on each hood. The wireing harness has to match the hoods.

In order to get the gear indicator and virtual cadence functions, you have to have a shifter that has the connector interface. Shimano has been kind enough to mark the road levers with the words "Flite Deck."

The "Universal" wireing harness is all but useless. It is intended for use with shift levers that don't have a Flite Deck interface and consequently doesn't provide the gear indicator function. You'll wind up with an ordinary computer that has remote operationg buttons and that costs at least twice as much as any equivlent computer.

The English pages of the owner's manual were obviously translated by someone whose first language isn't English. If you study it carefully, it'll eventually make sense. I'll bet that Japanese pages are crystal clear, but unfortunately, I can't read Japanese.

Another goofy thing is that the owner's manual comes with the wireing harness, not the head. Well, there are two different heads that are programmed a little bit differently so your owner's manual might not match up to the head that you have.

I've got Flite Deck computers on two of my personal bikes and I've set up a bunch of them for other people. I like them fine and I haven't had any problems once I've gotten them set up. I think that Shimano could have done a lot better with just a tiny bit more development in areas like remembering your mileage while you change batteries. I also think they tried to stretch the comcept too far in making it fit bikes that don't have the shifter interface.