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DeFeet socks - 1, Am Classic 420's - 0. Or, how I spent mybill
Apr 17, 2003 7:45 AM
Thursday morning.
The ride started well enough. Rain had been threatened, but nothing coming down. On the whole rather promising. Chilly, about 50, a far cry from yesterday's top temp of near 90, but light in the east. Full moon still visible in the west.
Maiden voyage on the new aero wheels. They certainly are minimalist. Slender, slender. Everything slender. Smooth, smooth. Everything smooth. The new Record cassette had been my biggest worry (would it fit onto the hub in the same place as on my other wheels? would shifting need more adjustment? is my chain too old; will it skip with new cassette? etc.). Cassette, though, is shifting just as it looks -- clean and crisp. Okay, this is all right.
Wow, that's some headwind. Or is it just an extremely powerful crosswind? Whatever, it's a training ride. No worries.
I'm now about 12 miles from home. But, what's that funny clunking sound? What tha? Coasting, my chain slackens. What? Pedal backward, chain binds. What tha?
Something like this had happened to me once before, when I had repacked a hub but left the bearings way loose, and the freehub was so loose on the axle that the pawls had stopped engaging (remember that, Greg?). This was just like that, but I hadn't touched these hubs. For one thing, they're entirely sealed.
What tha?
I am now freewheeling. Forward. Backward. Nothing. No sound. The pawls that had been clicking so decisively a few minutes ago were now silent. Impotent. I am no longer able to make the bike go forward.
And, no phone and no money.
It was a long walk in stockinged feet, let me tell you.
Tell me again about Open Pros, Record hubs?
Sucks about your wheels...ArvinC
Apr 17, 2003 8:02 AM
...but have to say, I really enjoyed your narrative! Exact same thoughts I was having myself when I just changed to my new wheelset a couple weeks ago, then went for a brief test ride. Imagined myself the whole way as you told your story.

Hope you get the problem fixed! Good luck!
re: DeFeet socks - 1, Am Classic 420's - 0. Or, how I spent myBerm
Apr 17, 2003 10:21 AM
My AC 420 had the same rear hub problem. Sent it back to American Classic, the replacement wheel was destroyed by UPS, but the third wheel arrived in good condition has been fine for about 4,000 miles. I wonder what the problem is because I have also heard of this problem occuring from other people?
I called this morning to see what was what. The guy said, oh,bill
Apr 17, 2003 10:31 AM
that's terrible, blah, blah, blah. Something about his manner told me that he wasn't that surprised. I ask, has this ever happened before? He said, "I've heard of it once or twice." And then, "They either go right away or not at all." Now I'm thinking, well, that sure sounds as if it happened more than once or twice.
I guess I'll give it all another shot. I'm definitely going to ask them for a pair of socks, at least, although, I have to say, the DeFeet socks are looking not too bad. I didn't walk the whole twelve miles, of course. After about two miles (with some coasting, although it was either flat or uphill for the vast majority of the trip back from the other side of the Potomac River up into Arlington), I reached a Starbucks and called my wife. That was another thing, "Could I use your phone for a local call to my wife? My bike broke." "No." "No?!! Really? Please? Pretty please?" The manager stuck to her corporate guns but handed me her personal cellular.
Note To Self: Bring Tow Rope On Rides With BillGregory Taylor
Apr 17, 2003 10:39 AM
Yes, I DO remember your little incident with the Campy Neutrons.

For those of you playing along at home, this is apparently the second time that Our Bill has conjured up a strange malfunction in a trick, lightweight wheel set. The first not-so-freewheel deal occured on a jaunt with the Lardbutts. Bill was riding along, looking strong, singin' a song, when suddenly his chain goes all goofy while coasting. Weird. The chain got all slack on the top and, just as suddenly, it cleared up. Bill shrugged off, but then it happened again, and again. At this point, the gang started offering those helpful, unsolicited, on-the-bike mechanical diagnoses like "Gee Bill, it looks like something's happening with the chain."

Anyway, we stop, gather 'round, and wonder what exactly it is that we are looking at. After some poking and prodding, we discover the cause of the malfunction. Turns out that Bill had just serviced the hubs, and the bearing cones had backed way the hell off while riding along. The wheel was flopping around on the axle to the point where it was pinching the cassette carrier and rotating it while he would coast.

Was Bill screwed? Naaah. The real beauty of Campy stuff shines through here -- you don't need cone wrenches to adjust the wheel bearings. Some work with the mini-tool, and Bill was back on the road, riding along, lookin' strong, singin' his brand new Campy Neutron song.

If you want aero and lightweight, return the American Classics and let Curly build you up a set of wheels.
Bill: Were you wrenching the AC's before your ride too? ;-) nmSpunout
Apr 17, 2003 11:02 AM
No way, baby. Although, I tell you what, as I was standingbill
Apr 17, 2003 11:19 AM
there at Hains Point at 6:30 a.m., no one in sight, wind whipping, no phone, no money, a pump, a tire tube, some tire levers, a couple of hex wrenches, and no clue, I damn well was thinking hard about wrenching something.
That blows. It wasn't the most pleasant of mornings...Gregory Taylor
Apr 17, 2003 11:27 AM
I thought that you Squadra Coppi guys had a set training ride at Hains Point at 6:30 am?
I was still some distance from the loop -- not quite to thebill
Apr 17, 2003 11:42 AM
point, just past the underpasses -- so I don't know if anyone was out there or not (never let the truth get in the way of a good story, y'know Greg?). It was sort of a sucky morning, cold, damp, windy, and still a bit dark, so I'll bet lots of folks did the basement thing for one more week. Before DST, people were going out in the a.m., but I can tell you that this was the first time I had made it out since the time change.
I did, however, get out to Hains Point at noon on Tuesday. That's a rocking good time.
I've gotta get out there....Gregory Taylor
Apr 17, 2003 11:50 AM
I'm actually working closer to Hains Point than previously. No excuses for not trying a noon session. I've never done it.
Bummer Bill.djg
Apr 18, 2003 5:27 AM
Wouldn't the guys at the Haines Point Tennis Center let you use the phone? They're open pretty early.

The open pros with record hubs will build a nice wheel, but not noticeably better than either the Neutrons or the Ks you left at home that morning.