|Specialized or Giant???? HELP!||mtbutah|
Apr 15, 2003 2:06 PM
|I am looking to purchase a new bike in the coming month. I have not owned a race level road bike before and would like your input on the two I am considering (any additional comprable suggestions are welcome). I am looking at the Specialized Allez Comp (double - full ultegra) and the Giant TCR 1 (double - full ultegra). Any suggestions or advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
|Giant is better||alansutton|
Apr 15, 2003 2:54 PM
|This question comes up often and the censuses has always been the same- Giant is better. I know many people who ride both and the Specialized riders are always slower, complain about soreness, get frequent flats and are generally disgruntled. Whereas the Giant riders are always at the front, always comfortable, good humored and generally healthier. In fact, a well-known University just completed a major study of bicycle bands and their effect on contemporary human behavior and their impact on biophysical chemical mechanisms. Interestingly enough, it also concluded that Giant was better. Alan|
|Special Ed Wins!||teoteoteo|
Apr 15, 2003 4:20 PM
|Pretty easy decision in my book. Go for the big "S". Advantages would be the fact that the Specialized has a wider size availability (6 sizes)and they use Columbus tubing. Size is the most important factor in a road rig--hands down Specialized wins this one. The 2002 models were plain but in 2003 Specialized served up some seriously great values. You also have your choice of steel or alum.|
|It's all about the bike alansutton||bugleboy|
Apr 16, 2003 6:57 AM
|your right it has nothing to do with the quality of the rider on the bike.|
|re: Specialized or Giant???? HELP!||pnitefly|
Apr 15, 2003 4:28 PM
|Specialized has more sizing options. To me, that is one of the more important things. I tried both frames and I found the Giant too compact and "whippy." My heel would actually hit the chainstays while pedalling!. The Specialized fit me better (73", 180lbs) and I felt was race oriented without being unstable. It is highly individual though so try as many frames as possible. Especially those new steel allez's. I knew I should have waited a year for those!|
|re: Specialized or Giant???? HELP!||BaadDawg|
Apr 15, 2003 4:40 PM
|Just got a TCR1 Composite and have 3 rides under my belt but cannot comapre it to anything else since I didn't do any test riding (winter).
For me the TCR1 is amazing. If you can find one and can spring forhte xtra $$ most feel the carbon fibre version is worth the money.
Sweet ride is all I can say.
Do a search under my name I have posted a few mini reviews.
|Specialized is Better||filtersweep|
Apr 15, 2003 4:38 PM
|This question comes up often and the censuses has always been the same- Specialized is better. I know many people who ride both and the Giant riders are always slower, complain about soreness, get frequent flats and are generally disgruntled. Whereas the Specialized riders are always at the front, always comfortable, good humored and generally healthier. In fact, a well-known University just completed a major study of bicycle bands and their effect on contemporary human behavior and their impact on biophysical chemical mechanisms. Interestingly enough, it also concluded that Specialized was better. filtersweep|
|I KNEW there was something different about me (nm)||SpecialTater|
Apr 16, 2003 5:47 AM
|how strong of a rider are you?||reklar|
Apr 15, 2003 5:24 PM
|and where do you live? if you are anywhere with lots of climbing (colorado, california, etc.), you will want to go with a triple unless you love to mash.|
|re: Specialized or Giant???? HELP!||cycling6500|
Apr 15, 2003 5:53 PM
|It doesn't matter whether it's Specialized or Giant, if it doesn't fit you, avoid it like a plague. Spend some time checking out those bikes before parting with your money. All else being equal, a bike that fits is a joy to ride. Enjoy shopping for your new bike.|
|re: Specialized or Giant???? HELP!||weiwentg|
Apr 15, 2003 7:33 PM
|normally I'd say the Giant, if it fits; I've ridden the old A1 frames, and even I could flex the BB (120lbs). but the new Specialized frames look pretty solid. most likely the Specialized frames will be heavier (even the E5 version weighs in around 1200g), but you do get a slightly more aero frame (there's a seat cutout, I think the downtube may be ovalized but I'm not sure). personally, I'd still stick with the Giant, but there may be fit issues; Specialized makes a full size run.|
|re: Specialized or Giant???? HELP!||Dutchy|
Apr 15, 2003 9:01 PM
|I can't comment on the Specialized but I do have a TCR1 and have had 6 racers on it so far and am extremely satisfied with the purchase. I am 5,8/175cm and bought the medium. With Ultegra and Krysium SL's it weighs 16.5lbs/7.5kg. It is a great bike for climbing.
|Just built up a Specialized Comp for a friend...||BergMann|
Apr 16, 2003 8:09 AM
|On the whole, it's a good bike for the $$ - snappy, quick handling, and 19.5 lbs (in a 56cm) built up with cages and Ultegra SL pedals.
A couple bones of contention, however:
1) the Shimano 540 wheels are _pigs_ 1950g for the set, and the hubs on them are junk (sub 105 quality).
2) the body geometry saddle is also a pig. 390 grams. My buddy doesn't mind it, but I found it uncomfortable and ugly.
3) the specialized stem is 4-way adjustable, which is cool for initial experiments with position, but you can't stack spacers on top of it because of the angled top surface of the internal cam mechanism. These bikes come delivered with a 1" stack of carbon spacers, and it would be nice if you take a couple out without having to immediately cut the steerer.
The stem I can live with. The wheels and seat I would loose immediately if it were my ride.
Simply looking at the spec, the Giant seems to be the superior bike -- I'd much rather be on a mavic wheelset and a Flite saddle.
Test ride them both and see how they feel. If you fall in love with the specialized, you can always negotiate some upgrades with your dealer.
|I test rode both before deciding on the Giant.||rob99|
Apr 16, 2003 2:26 PM
|I was in the same situation your were when deciding which bike to buy., My previous bike was an Aluminum frame, and upon riding the Specialized decided the ride was very similar to my old bike. I wanted something new and different. Both bikes seemed to fit well. I really liked the weight and the ride of the Giant CF. I have had it a month or so now and am still dialing in the fit, mostly with stem size and rise. All in all it's a fast, light comfortable ride. The one thing I discovered this weekend after coming down a big pass at about 45mph was that it is not nearly as stable and as a previous person put it "whippy" feeling. I am sure that I will adjust to the shorter wheel base in time when it comes to bombing down big hills, but for now I am still a bit uncomfortable with the speed. I like the carbon fiber "feel". This is definately a "go fast" bike. I can see myself purchasing a nice steel framed road bike for those days where going fast is not the primarly goal. Tail winds.|| |