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What is the SHORTEST STEM I can get?(11 posts)

What is the SHORTEST STEM I can get?Eug
Apr 15, 2003 8:02 AM
To compensate for my frame which is too big I'm compensating getting a shorter stem (moving my seat up obviously).
Terry Bicycles has some real short ones.cory
Apr 15, 2003 8:25 AM
Nashbar and Performance both used to list some pretty short stems in their catalogs, but I don't have the latest ones to see if they still do. And Georgena Terry, who specializes in bikes for women, has some short quill stems--at least 70cm, and I think maybe down to 50. Haven't seen her catalog in awhile, either, so I don't know if she has threadless stuff.
re: What is the SHORTEST STEM I can get?fliparagon
Apr 15, 2003 9:13 AM
Supergo has some of their 'Weyless' threadless road stems (1 1/8") in as small a size as 60mm. And if you don't mind the "weird" looks, they have downhill threadless stems even smaller that would work (I believe a 40mm).
Thx. -10 degree 60 mm Weyless stem maybe...Eug
Apr 15, 2003 11:18 AM
Thanks, maybe I'll get a 60 mm Weyless road stem from Supergo. That plus moving the seat up a notch should decrease the length by about a little over an inch, which is probably enough to ease the stretched-out feeling. (My current stem is 85 mm.)

The local stores suggested the MTB stems won't work, because of the clamp sizing.

I just hope a 60 mm stem doesn't feel too twitchy, but I'm guessing it won't make a huge difference to a recreational rider such as me.
re: What is the SHORTEST STEM I can get?tarwheel
Apr 15, 2003 12:30 PM
You didn't mention whether you need a threaded (quill) or threadless stem. You can buy threaded stems as short as 50 or 60 mm from Nitto, Profile and Salsa. Profile and Salsa also make threadless stems that short.
Threadless (nm)Eug
Apr 15, 2003 3:14 PM
CAN get or SHOULD get?jtolleson
Apr 15, 2003 2:58 PM
People ride stems as short as 8 with no real adverse consequence, and stems as short as 4 are available. But if you are looking for a super short stem AND moving your seat up... should you really keep that frame?

Saddle fore-aft is about pedaling dynamics, not reach to the bars. While folks disagree about the importance of a pure KOPS (knee over pedal spindle) position, the minute someone mentions that they are tweaking TT length by sliding their saddle forward, I get worried.
Good points butEug
Apr 15, 2003 3:34 PM
Your concerns are very justified, although I should mention I'd move the seat forward only another 1 cm, and actually might improve my KOPS slightly.

Ideally I'd get a new frame, but I figure I can give the 60 mm stem a go first. I think I should have a 52 cm frame instead of my 54 cm, and was actually considering a full Ultegra Norco with Mavic Cosmic Elite wheels, Kevlar bead tires, Selle Italia Flite saddle for CAD$2000 (US$1375).

However, that'd mean having to sell my almost new bike and shelling out an extra CAD$1000, basically for frame change. (The Ultegra would be lost on me, since I'm a novice road rider, as is fairly obvious by my sizing woes.)
50mm FSA threadlessreklar
Apr 15, 2003 5:21 PM
I have a 50mm FSA threadless stem for sale if you are interested. What is your email?
Thx, but I already ordered a 60 mm Weyless. (nm)Eug
Apr 15, 2003 7:05 PM
Something else to considertarwheel
Apr 16, 2003 5:20 AM
JT is right about shorter stems affecting handling. I had a 7 cm stem on one of my bikes for a while and the steering is much quicker, twitchier. If you raise your handlebars that will also shorten the reach, about .3 cm shorter for every 1 cm higher. Since you've got threadless, you might consider a riser stem -- like a Salsa 105 or Ritchey Pro +/- 17 flopped. That will shorten the reach quite a bit and raise your bars at the same time. For example, on the bike with the 7 cm/-17 stem, I switched to a Profile 10 cm, 90-degree and raised the bars about 1 inch and it fits better than ever.