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Tubular Tape - Bad Idea?(11 posts)

Tubular Tape - Bad Idea?purplepaul
Apr 11, 2003 3:47 PM
I'm making my first foray into the wonderful world of tubulars. The guy building my frame, Tom Kellogg of Spectrum Cycles, said I should absolutely stay away from tape as it is not sticky enough to be safe. While I respect him immensely, I find it difficult to believe that such a fundamentally flawed product would remain on the market.

So, should I stick with glue (hehe), or try the tape?

BTW, I'm only thinking of the tape because of perceived convenience when changing flats on the road. Tires will be Conti Comps.

Thanks,

Paul
Doug Sloan likes itKerry
Apr 11, 2003 4:47 PM
The history with double sided sticky tape was dismal, but apparently those problems have been solved. Doug Sloan has repeatedly noted good experiences with the tape.
re: Tubular Tape - Bad Idea?flying
Apr 11, 2003 6:00 PM
I have not used tape but ride 5000 or more miles a year only on tubulars. Glue is very simple & easy & effective.
In 13+ years I have not had 1 problem. Give it a try.....just go easy put a even thin coat on the tire strip & the rim. I do this right from the tube of glue using the tube to spread it even, let dry 10 minutes & mount. Air up to 120 or so let sit over night.
I also carry an old one with old glue on it for a spare & have used it no problems. Drag the brake after installing the spare to heat the glue & take it a bit easy going home......ie: no 40mph turns with the pedal scraping ;-)

I swear most folks make waaaaaaaaaayyy too much out of it.Give it a try & no worries
re: Tubular Tape - Bad Idea?purplepaul
Apr 11, 2003 6:26 PM
Frankly, I can't imagine that it could be that difficult just to glue a tire onto a rim. But, my concern is just about changing that flat far from home and not having any idea of what "take it a bit easy" translates to. Riding with other people would make it a drag if they had to slow down or, worse, refused to.

So, the Tufo tape seemed like a great idea just for a practical way to quickly change the tire with no worries. If you're saying that speed isn't a problem, just extreme cornering, like scraping the pedal, I think that would be no problem.
re: Tubular Tape - good idea!Suds
Apr 11, 2003 6:13 PM
Gluing tubulars isn't as bad as some make it out to be. However, the Tufo tape works so well, and is so foolproof, quick, strong, clean and simple, I just can't bring myself to use regular glue anymore. The tape is essentially presure sensative glue held together in a strip (tape form) by a thin layer of mesh in the middle. Install, inflate and go - no worries and no drying.

Cheers,
Suds
I wouldn't trust it in a crit.MR_GRUMPY
Apr 11, 2003 6:26 PM
It might be ok in a time trial or maybe in a road race, but I wouldn't want to take a chance with rolling a front tire in the last turn.
holds better than glue; much more difficult to remove nmDougSloan
Apr 13, 2003 7:36 AM
re: Tubular Tape - Bad Idea?Akirasho
Apr 11, 2003 9:05 PM
... I've used both glue (Vittoria Mastik One) and tape (Tufo) with good results (not a crit racer)... but since you mentioned that this was your first foray into tubulars... enhance the total experience with a glueup and save the tape for later (my glueup method, http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/FAQ/8b.21.html the tape is handy for last minute mountings (tire casing still neeeds to be stretched)).

Changing a preglued casing on the road should not prove too difficult (I've yet to remove a taped tire so I can't comment on how easy it is... or if the tape stays on the rim).

Be the bike.
re: Tubular Tape - Bad Idea?madwiscbiker
Apr 12, 2003 6:14 PM
Glue works. It is tried and true and not as big a hassle as itu has been made out to be. Although I would say that it takes a bit more time to change a tire on the road, BUT oh the ride and the corners are just ever so much more so.
For instance, last Sunday in the 35 degree weather I got a nail to stick all the way through my lovely tubulars. The longest part of the whole process was pealing the tire off the wheel and breaking that glue seam. Probably did take 20 minutes for the whole thing. But for me taking it easy on the way home was 45 km/hr (the wind in the back) and a bit slower on the turns. So I have not had trouble riding on newly changed tires. But the benefits outweigh the costs for sure, except they are so expensive.

Anybody have any luck with anyone sewing and repatching. I have heard bad things about the businesses who do it but I hear if you learn to do it yourself it is not that bad.
re: Tubular Tape - Bad Idea?Cat 4 boy
Apr 13, 2003 10:12 AM
Tub tape is fine, I've used it for 5 years, just did a crit today, cornering like a lunatic........no problems. It's also a lot cleaner than applying the glue.

Enjoy your tubs, you'll go fine on Conti or Vittoria CX

Get racing!!
Thanks for all the replies. nmpurplepaul
Apr 13, 2003 3:44 PM