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Excel Sports Titanium Road Frames - Uncovering the Mystery(13 posts)

Excel Sports Titanium Road Frames - Uncovering the MysteryFez
Apr 10, 2003 8:33 AM
On Excel's catalog and website there is a new Macalu Ti frame called the Cirrus. It has both standard and compact geometries. The geometries look like they are NOT Litespeed, and also it has S-bend stays instead of the Radial stays found on a Litespeed.

Any info on who makes these TI frames for Excel?

P.S. I am NOT talking about the Pro Ti frame, which is a Litespeed Arenberg with different decals.
Its could be ligtespeed they have been known tothe bull
Apr 10, 2003 8:47 AM
do custom work in large numbers.
maybe, maybe notFez
Apr 10, 2003 8:55 AM
I can only see it from the pdf version of the catalog (don't have a paper copy) and the web has no picture yet.

But it looks like they have Cannondale type Sbend seatstays (not the curved stays that are on every LS except the Classic).

The seat collar area looks more like a Titanium Sports.

But the geometries are a little different, and it only gives top tube length, and seat and head angles

Excel has printed very few details about it.
opps litespeed!nmthe bull
Apr 10, 2003 9:02 AM
Links to themFez
Apr 10, 2003 9:05 AM
The Mystery Cirrus:

http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?page=8&description=Cirrus+Titanium+Road+Frame+Standard&vendorCode=MACALU&major=1&minor=1

The Professional/Arenberg:

http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?page=8&description=Professional+Road+Frame&vendorCode=MACALU&major=1&minor=1
Just a guessNessism
Apr 10, 2003 10:32 AM
The frame looks similar to a Merlin; S-bend chain stays and similar looking dropouts. The frame seems to be using machine cut (i.e. butted) round tubing which is also a common practice for Merlin. Maybe the Merlin shop (inside the Litespeed main building) is taking contract work to increase their production numbers? Excel has been a long term Merlin dealer so this arrangement would be a natural win-win for both companies.

Just a WAG.

Ed
re:Handbuilt in little Italy by Douglas Scattante. nmdzrider
Apr 10, 2003 11:57 AM
great - now i can feel good about putting campy on it...Fez
Apr 10, 2003 12:37 PM
No, seriously. You almost had me there.
little Italyfiltersweep
Apr 10, 2003 12:54 PM
As hilarious as that was, is there really such thing as an exotic "high zoot" Ti builder? It isn't like there is a century old tradition passed down from father to son of hand brazing (or whatever the heck they do) titanium framesets...
Actually, Douglas Scattante does his work in Zion. nmRJF
Apr 10, 2003 2:08 PM
Handbuilt in China by Sca Tan Te :-) (nm)geeker
Apr 10, 2003 3:09 PM
Handbuilt in China by Sca Tan Te :-) ,,,,davet
Apr 10, 2003 5:00 PM
...wasn't he the guy that did the Great Wall jump?
made by LitespeedJS Haiku Shop
Apr 11, 2003 6:33 AM
just because the geometry or tubing are different from Litespeed-brand frames doesn't mean they're not made at the Litespeed shop. they not only have a custom option, but also make large runs of frames to "manufacturer's" spec. i took a tour of the "factory" in november and can tell you for a fact that they make litespeed, merlin, macalu, QR, merckx, and many more.