|it's bike buying time... advice wanted||WIWill|
Apr 9, 2003 9:09 AM
|Greetings! I've been riding a Columbus SL Merckx with Ultegra for the last 5 years, and I am getting the urge to get a new bike. I work in a bike store and have access to lots of bikes. Soulcraft, Co-Motion, Lemond, Orbea, Pegoretti, Marin, Cannondale, Giant, Bianchi, Raleigh, Fuji, Colnago and probably others that I can't think of right now. I really like the look and feel of steel and hate the look and feel of aluminum, especially compact frames- Blech!. I would probably be okay with a Ti bike like the Lemond Victoire. Since I don't plan on working in a shop forever this bike is going to be my last one for a while. I want it to be at least somewhat unique and with character (thus I have a Merckx and a Breezer mountain bike and have eliminated Giant, Trek, Cannondale, Fuji, etc from the possibilities and would like to stay away from Lemond, since it is a part of the whole Trek Corp) Right now the leading contenders are the Marin Stelvio or Treviso (who makes the Marin bikes in Italy anyway, does anyone know?), the Co-Motion Espresso, Soulcraft Royale, Pegoretti Marcelo and the Orbea Ultrafoco/carbon stay frame. I weigh 150 and am looking for a comfortable ride. I don't race much, hate criteriums, like long, hilly rides and may race some duathlons/triathlons for fun. I do want something lighter than my current Merckx which is about 21 lbs for a 59cm and a classic lugged steel fork, and I am almost certain to go with Campy Chorus. As far as geometry, I like stretched out riding positions and pretty stable rides. Does anyone have advice about anything or want to praise or rag on any of these possible bikes? I'll take all comments as I ponder this decision over the next few months and save up money for this purchase! Thanks in advance! Will|
|Look into the De Rosa Merak with Record 10. (nm)||onespeed|
Apr 9, 2003 9:40 AM
|This time, I will agree. Go Chorus and Neutrons=Climber nm||Spunout|
Apr 9, 2003 9:43 AM
|re: it's bike buying time... advice wanted||Spunout|
Apr 9, 2003 9:44 AM
|Okay, but seriously, Pegoretti.|
|re: it's bike buying time... advice wanted||teoteoteo|
Apr 9, 2003 9:46 AM
|Being a fellow shop rat and hearing your tastes I'd have to say that Soulcraft stands out. They make some damn fine frames. Maybe Co-motion in second spot. I owned two Orbea's last year--both Alum's compacts. Just the opposite of what you like. The Orbea distributor treated me very well so I give them an "A" for effort but would say the finish quality on the welds/paint/frame prep leaves a little to be desired. The price they offer is very good though so it is one of the downsides of a less expensive frame
I agree with the Chorus--I just built a new Chorus rig yesterday--60 degrees and sunny so it's time to ride.....
|Here you go.....||african|
Apr 9, 2003 10:16 AM
|how about a fondriest status carb (steel frame carbon seat stays). I think that will be a really unique bike that has a bunch of class and a real stand out in a pack. I love my colnago, but there are sooo many of them now days. I have a fondriest and I only know of one in my area and I told him to get it (or suggested it really). My fondriest is alum SAT U107 and while I have yet to build it up once I do it will freak people out as it is sweeeeet.
Anyway I love my fondriest (see pic), you have fun looking and enjoy the ride.
|I have to agree that the Status Carb is an elite level frame...||Live Steam|
Apr 9, 2003 11:34 AM
|but you should at least post the correct pic for him to look at :O) It is on my must have list. Super light and very compliant ride.
|yeah sorry thats a pic of my bike, can't help but show off ..||african|
Apr 9, 2003 11:39 AM
|see what happens when you get a fondriest you try tell everyone about it and post friggen pictures of it on discussion boards when you should be working ........ doh back to work I go......|
|Parlee, Calfee, Sachs, Holland, Serotta, etc. nm.||No_sprint|
Apr 9, 2003 10:42 AM
|re: it's bike buying time... advice wanted||rwbadley|
Apr 9, 2003 11:01 AM
|I've seen some really pretty Co-motion. I think that might be my first pick of your bikes listed. The foco carbon stay Orbea would be up there also.. tho' an ultrafoca may not have the longevity you desire soo, go with the Co-motion.|
|describe what you're test ridden and what you like/dislike||kenyee|
Apr 9, 2003 11:35 AM
|about each bike. You also have to list the wheels that were on them to make an apples to apples comparison...
Some folks might be able to make suggestions to fit your taste better then...
|I'd go with Pegoretti Marcelo||geeker|
Apr 9, 2003 11:56 AM
|That's my fantasy bike if I could afford it. They have short top tubes and slack seat angles, though. If you want a more stretched-out position, and work at a shop who's in touch with the distributor, I think you can order a custom.|
|Pegoretti -- Although I believe Gita charges extra for custom||bill|
Apr 9, 2003 12:11 PM
|I don't think Dario cares at all, and you may be able to work it out at the same price point. I bought a custom Marcelo through tiramisu.co.uk in 2001, and it took approximately forever but was worth the wait. It's a bike that grows on you -- nothing really jumps out at you (other than the comfort of the ride while being absolutely laterally stiff), but it just does everything well. Really, really well.
As for the short TT, slack seat angle thing, well, mine isn't.
|here's some good advice||tnbiker|
Apr 9, 2003 5:15 PM
|Buy a nice bike from a reputable dealer. There are PLENTY of great bikes out there. I just bought a fancy steel roadbike, and when I got it home I noticed an incomplete weld. The shop and manufacturer quickly took care of this problem. Try having that done when with your custom made roadbike handmade in the foothills of italian alps. Once in a while, even expensive bikes have problems. If you don't have good local shops, then try to find a mailorder with liberal return policies. Airborne is a good example (probably not what you wanted)|
|If it were me.....||slide13|
Apr 9, 2003 5:15 PM
|I would go for a Colnago Master X-Light with either Chorus or Record.
I work in a bike shop also and am currently on a Lemond. Great bike for the money, especially since I switched out the Ultegra for Campy. But, we just became a Colnago dealer and I'm lusting after either a Classic or Master X-Light frame. The Lemond is a nice bike, but before I leave the bike buisness I'll be taking a Colnago with me! There is just something about those frames that I love. Can't think of much else I would choose over that except maybe a Serotta CSI or a custom Waterford, but I'd probably still go with the Colnago.
Just my oppinion, and my dream bike.
|re: it's bike buying time... advice wanted||wielerpret|
Apr 11, 2003 5:08 AM
|Yours is not an unpleasant dilemma. The choice is overwhelming, and since you work in a US bikestore you already appear to have informed yourself well. There are many US brands which one doesn't come across over here in Europe.
To me however the Pegoretti seems preferable, but please take care not to pick any of their fancy colourschemes. Butt-ugly and out of fashion before you know it. Classic steel I think needs classic paint. With Neutron wheels and Chorus (Record!!) gruppo if you can afford it, you'll never need another bike in your lifetime. I don't know about its price when compared with a Sachs, which is hideously expensive over here (Netherlands) with the import duties and all. (Tommasini and Independent Fabrications also still produce lovely steel frames)
Carbon-wise, a 2003 Colnago maybe a common sight around your area but its ride will probably convince that these folks do not only follow the crowd for its own sake. The perfidious Trek 5200 you so much abhor will be a lot cheaper I guess. I own one with A Record gruppo and it is amazing, (climbs!!) even if more skittish and louder on the decals than my rocksteady Sachs. Good luck with your choice. www.iwaarden.com (for pictures then click: 'mijn fietsen'.)