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Just Wanted To Say Thanks To All Of You !CARBON110
Apr 7, 2003 9:02 AM
For your response a week ago concering my accident with a car. I really appreciated it and only recently got to read your notes. So thanks people, it was well timed and made me feel good. Here is a short recap of what happeneed now that my medication is a little more under control.

I was on a regular training ride that I do often. I had just received the day before my American classic 420 with a custom spoke count. I found the wheels to be very smooth, the most quiet wheels I have ever ridden, and they accelerate it seems faster then most wheels I have riddn. Although, this was only after two rides before they were destroyed by the car accident.
Anyway, I went up this 6 mile climb called Town Mtn road to see how the stiffness was on these wheels. The rim is painted and does not seperate the brake surface from the rim itself, so the brake surface s painted too. This makes the brakes grabb quickly intially but then when they eat up they brake slower unless you really pull on the brake and lock up your wheel. SO I was coming down the hill after going up ( I had planned on doing the climb twice )It was overcast and I was wearing my clear lens oakleys. I was traveling very slow compared to usual sinc I only had two rides in on these wheel and I was not prepping for a race that weekend. The hill ends at a major intersection with a 4 way light.
I as was coming down about 200 yards from the bottom I traveling slow since the view is very beautiful. You can see all of Asheville. So I was going slow since this is one of my favorite parts of the ride. This new Volvo S80 started up the hill and stopped to turn left about 300 feet from the bottom. I made eye contact with the driver as soon as I could. She started to pull forward but stopped and jerked her car. I received this as she was going to wait for me to passeven though she had more then enough time to make the turn. There is plenty of room on this road due to very wide lanes and break down lanes as well.
At no point was there a car behind her orme for that matter so there wass no pressure from other traffic. As I approached passing in front of her car she stepped on the gas pedal at the last minute and drove right into me.
I was in such shock from seeing her car move and having kept eye contact with her the ENTIRE time that I yelled "" what are you doing?"" and did NOT have time to even lock my wheel up for the collision. I hit her car and did a summer salt in the air landng on my feet and rolling down and 25 feet of the steep last part of the hill.
I immediately saw my right leg was jelly and bending i the wring direction. I grabbed it and tried to set it up straight. I turned around with my head and looked at the driver who was trying to talk to m from 20feet away with her windows up and shruggin her shoulders. I yelled at least 5 times for hr to call 911 and ended the last yell with "" call F-cking 911 NOW! "" she shook her head no and I just started to scream out for help. I yelled s loud as I could.
A gentlemen came over and looked dwn at me. I told him I was on the verge of passign out and to please call 911. I promptly looked at me, said nothing and walked away. Another gentlemen came running past him kneeled down beside me took hold of my foo and supported it with his shoe. He whipped out his cell phone and called 911 and told them where I was and what it looked like the break was.
The woman then still sittingher car, opened her car door with her seatbelt still on, and said "" I'm not going to leave until you get out of the road and on to the side walk so no one else hits you ""
I pleaded with the man to cal my girlfriend which he tried and then asked him to take her plate number down so she could not get away. Then I layed on the ground and the medics showed up and the police cornered the driver forcing her to pull into a parkinglot.
I refused morphine at the hospitol but that only lasted 5 minutes, then I had an operat
"promptly looked at me, said nothing and walked away"kenyee
Apr 7, 2003 9:10 AM
I wouldn't call this guy a "gentleman" :-P
Hope the healing goes well and you get some SpeedDreams out of it...
Where's the rest of the story?????????..........nmchopper
Apr 7, 2003 9:26 AM
re: Just Wanted To Say Thanks To All Of You !RobbDC
Apr 7, 2003 9:35 AM
did you like your wheels?
didn't he say so? (nm)jtferraro
Apr 7, 2003 10:34 AM
Hey CARBON110, your post got clipped off. . .js5280
Apr 7, 2003 10:21 AM
We're anxious to hear the rest. . .
Reading your post was like watching the Sunday night movie and getting the message, 'To Be Continued.' nmfliparagon
Apr 7, 2003 10:36 AM
Reading your post was like watching the Sunday night movie and gRich_Racer
Apr 7, 2003 10:44 AM
I agree! (lol)

I remember your first post too. It sounds like it unfolds so strangely. I'd love to know what the volvo drivers recount of events was. And what the hell was up with the guy that looked at you and just walked off?!

I hope you get well soon!
Part Two..... Sorry Didnt see thatCARBON110
Apr 7, 2003 11:17 AM
Then I had an operation where they placed a "" nail "" from my knee to my ankle and screwed the rest of my leg together. I was screaming when they moved me to get my x-rays and apologized to the nurses but it was unfathomable pain. I broke my tibula and fibula and fractured my ankle.

The woman concequently confessed saying "" I thought I had enough room "" The Police, who acted great, gave her a ticket for faiing to yield resulting in personal injury and reckless and careless driving. They then dropped off my bike and its pieces at "" any shop I choose "" i had lawyers sendig me all kinds of nice greeting cards :)

I'm ot sure what Im going to get out of it ut its not enough although I know I am very lucky to have not suffered more. My team mates brought me everything from velonews and cyclesport to good laugers for when I recover. I can't wait ot get back out there but I am having nightmares about the accident which can't go away soon enough. My Doc saysits just the medication so thats a relief. Anyway, I wish you guys all the best and look forward to maybe riding with some of you in 6-8 ,months. I will be the guy on a new Trek with a motorcycle helmet and hockey pads all over HAHA jk

I sure will miss this racing season and the plans I made with some of you so good luck guys and gals I will be attentivly reading about your endeavors and exploits and your two wheel machines
Ow, ow, ow. . .js5280
Apr 7, 2003 11:31 AM
Hope you get well soon. It's all about getting back to your normal self. Can't believe that women turned into first of all, and then wouldn't call 911. I think with those traffic tickets, pending insurance claims, and resulting premium increases, she won't forget this incident anytime soon. The "I thought I had enough room" confession should hopefully seal the case in your favor. Unfortuantely though no relief from the pain and suffering you're going though.
Part Two..... Sorry Didnt see thatbicyclerepairman
Apr 7, 2003 11:38 AM
Whew! I thought you were posting from your laptop with a wireless internet connection as you were entering the O.R.
Did you manage to avoid any head injuries? I'm sorry it happened and I hope you have a speedy recovery.
my car/bike accident was no way as severe as yoursColnagoFE
Apr 7, 2003 12:47 PM
but once you are healed and get the new bike and all it will likely feel a bit scary to be out on the road again because you think everyone is going to hit you, but eventually you'll be back to normal. good luck on a fast recovery!
Carbon, What an ordeal. My best wishes for a speedy recovery. nmnoveread
Apr 7, 2003 1:08 PM
Glad you're alive to tell the story &.............Len J
Apr 7, 2003 1:38 PM
take some time before you decide what to do about the Insurance Co. You need a clear head & patience.

There is plenty of experience on this board in both recovering & settling so "take advantage of us".

Hope the pain receeds, sound like you have plenty of physical therapy coming.

Best WishesBacco
Apr 7, 2003 4:15 PM
Carbon, I hope you have a speedy and complete recovery! I hope you get a generous settlement and the woman gets what she deserves in court.

Did your local newspaper give the accident any coverage? It might increase the awareness of drivers in your area to respect bikers and to "share the road."

Best WishesRich_Racer
Apr 7, 2003 4:25 PM
Would love to go for a ride with you when you're up and running. Maybe it's time to read "It's not about the bike" again - and the bit about Lance being over taken by an old woman with her shopping going up a hill! You'll be back!

I've been sick with some kind of infection for the last 2 months so my plans for the year have been somewhat altered too. Getting back to fitness is hard work but it's great to see the large improvements compared to the little improvements that training usually involves! That's what I keep telling myself for when I eventually get back on the bike, anyway.


What a story - "keep smilin" and get well soonKeeponTrekkin
Apr 7, 2003 7:56 PM
Isn't it just incredible how the worst accidents happen in what are apparently the least likely circumstances.

How mobile are you? How long until you can take PT, drive a car, etc?

Condolences and Well-wishesTrekFurthur
Apr 8, 2003 5:58 AM
Hope all goes well in recovery, Carbon110; shocked at what happened to you in Asheville. My experience of that town would never have borne that out--just terrible. Still thinking of moving there eventually, though ;)

As for your situation--I'd think you'd at least have your medical covered and a new 5900 Project One! Dream about that one, instead of the nightmares.
holy cr@pgtx
Apr 8, 2003 7:17 AM
Get the best lawyer money will buy and sue the living sh!t out of her. That's what I'd do, anyway. She showed no remorse and made no attempt to come to your assistance.

Get well soon!
Glad to hear you're feeling a bit better......................roadmeister
Apr 7, 2003 5:50 PM
as your first post had us pretty scared for your well-being. The worst is over, and better times are ahead. Keep
your morale up, rest & rehab. Stay in touch with your
legal counsel....yes, they may take as much as a third of
the settlement, but you will still come out better than if you pursued this yourself. Let the pros work for you (Doctors,attorneys,therapists)...It will allow you time to get your mind & body healed properly. If Lance can do it..............Good Luck.
Sympathy and best to you, Carb. Yep ... a great group!Elefantino
Apr 7, 2003 6:55 PM
This board helped me immensely during my two recoveries. A wonderfully caring (for the most part) bunch of individuals and fellow enthusiasts.

Your recovery will at times seem slow and maddening but in reality you'll be back on the bike before you know it, more thankful than ever that you can make little circles again.

Speedy healing.

Sympathy and best to you, Carb. Yep ... a great group!Sadlebred
Apr 7, 2003 8:17 PM
Carbon...I wish you a speedy recovery. I was hit by a car in 1999 less than 2 weeks after major surgery. I'd been cleared to ride easily by my doctor. I was out of action for several weeks with a shoulder injury. It isn't fun, but you will get better and will be back on your bike! Good luck!
re: Just Wanted To Say Thanks To All Of You !koala
Apr 8, 2003 3:26 AM
Heal fast. Get everything coming to you. Know people are pulling for your speedy recovery.

Yow! Ain't THAT a story!Gregory Taylor
Apr 8, 2003 5:10 AM
Sounds like you inadvertently discovered Rule #1 in Miss Manners' Big Book of Emergency Room Etiquette: When they offer you pain medication, take it. Pain killer = good thing after being hit by a car. Hell, go ahead and lick the inside of that little plastic cup that the nurses use to dispense medicine just in case there is any pain-killing residue that you missed. The hospital staff will understand completely.

Good luck with the recovery and physical therapy. By the way, do you know whether the "nail" that they put in your leg was Campy or Shimano compatable? While medical charts usually carry important information like blood type, weight, religious affiliation, vegetarian/non-vegetarian, etc., they often miss fundamental data such as component preference. It's grounds for malpractice, if you ask me.
Nail compatabilityms
Apr 8, 2003 6:58 AM
Whether its Campy or Shimano compatible, as long as you have the "nail" it will be a pain in the a## every time that you go through a metal detector. My trusty associate has a ti rod in his thigh (car accident). Whenever he goes with me to court, we have to allow extra time for the inevitable pull over, scanning by a wand and explanation to the deputy US Marshal about the ti rod.

Your accident sounds a lot like my worst nightmare. I wish that you have a speedy recovery -- and extract lots of reparations from the driver.
Nail compatabilitylc21998
Apr 8, 2003 7:24 AM
That's why carbon is better than titanium. Finally, an unarguable end to the carbon/titanium debate.

(Question about your friend: Does he have a doctor's note re the nail? Do the CSO's care? (The blue jacketed guys at the door to the Federal Courthouses are not Marshals. They're CSO's (courtroom security officers) that work for the courts not the Justice Dept.) I've always wondered if there's like a standard doctor's note and why people couldn't just print up something on their own.
I don't think that a doctor's note would work...Gregory Taylor
Apr 8, 2003 7:56 AM
It would be too easy for the bad guys to just whomp up a note from Dr. Glock and try to stroll past the guards. Carbon 110 is probably stuck rolling up his pants leg and letting the guard wave the wand over his bare shin to prove that he isn't packing something.
I don't think that a doctor's note would work...lc21998
Apr 8, 2003 9:56 AM
It's funny you say that: My last name's Gluck and once coming through customs I got a hard time from the agent who wanted to know if I was related to the gun people. (I'm not.)
Oh the memories...Charlie Amerique
Apr 8, 2003 9:52 AM
...your story brings back. And I'm waiting for a new road bike?? I must be crazy!

Well, I am really sorry about what happened to you, but from personal experience I can tell you SIGN NOTHING from any insurance agent or lawyer until you are off any medication that can impare your judgement.

As for the nightmares, they might.. MIGHT get replaced by fear. I had a hell of a time getting back on the road after my last "car accident" but putting myself in a postition where I had no choice but to ride, on the road, in the dark, in the snow, uphill both ways.. uh.. well, dark and on the road at least.

Though I'm new to this board, I do feel the sense of community that grows from here and wish you all the best and good wishes for a swift and strong recovery.