|Gunnar Roadie vs. Lemond Steel (or other steel frames)||PBLed|
Apr 1, 2003 6:54 PM
|As far as frames go, does anyone have experiences with either of these? What are the major advantages/disadvantages of one to the other? I am a taller rider (6'5), and looking for a good reliable frame suited for both crit. races and stage races, if that has any bearing on the topic.
|re: Love them both||ss-nyc|
Apr 1, 2003 7:15 PM
|I am shorter than you...would ride a 52cm but here is my opinion...
Over about 6 months I went to a few different shops in my area (NYC) to test ride both bikes since the shop owners were getting annoyed with my constant test rides so I think I have a rather fair idea of both.
Nice "stable" steel ride. Laid back geometry with longer top tube than most production frames. I think this would be a great weekend bike for long fast rides.
Shorter top tubes, more agressive geometry. Loved the ride as much as the Lemond but this bike just felt faster and/or more responsive.
Both had Shimano Ultegra with carbon forks and similar setups since I had the shops adjust saddle height, swap stems, and install my pedals for the test rides so I could get an accurate feel.
I probably would have bought the Lemond since it felt more relaxed and I was looking for a weekend club-ride bike. I ended up buying a steel Fuji becasue it was a leftover, rode the same as the Lemond, and was much cheaper.
The advantage of the Gunnar is you can go full-custom for not that much money and most people love the ride although I heard the paint sucks. Plus, how can you go wrong with a bike made in the old Schwin Paramount factory made by a family memeber of Schwin?
hope this helps.
|I love my Gunnar !||MR_GRUMPY|
Apr 1, 2003 7:51 PM
|Yes, the stock paint is pretty plain, but the "color of the month" has some great paint work with a free clearcoat. The downside is that you have to wait for a color that you like. They don't mention it on their website, but they use a huge 1 1/4 top and down tube. I'm 6' 2" and ride a 60cm frame. A lot of steel frames use a 1 1/8 top tube. That makes the bike too flexy for a big rider. The great benefit of a Gunnar is that the price can't be beat. In the larger sizes they use 853 for the Seat and top tubes and True Temper OX Platinum for the rest. This is top of the line. I'm not sure what size frame you need, but you can't go wrong with a Gunnar. If it turns out that you do have to go custom, I would recomend looking at a Waterford R14 model. The Gunnar retails for $650, but if you have to go custom, add another $350 to that. The Waterford R14 is full custom and retails for $1300. Both bikes can be ordered from any Waterford dealer, since they are both made in the same factory.|
|no comparison||terry b|
Apr 1, 2003 8:04 PM
|I ride a 58 Gunnar and frankly I think their products are the best kept secret in cycling. Excellent quality, great ride and how can you beat the price? You can turn them into anything from a tourer to a race rocket. Mine's a little retro thing with DT shifters, Record brake levers and a nice Wound Up fork. Try it, you'll like it.
Compared to Lemmond, 10x the chi-chi value.
Apr 2, 2003 9:05 AM
I can't say enough about them. Look at their RO Zona frame. Columbus Nivachrom steel, very nice. I bought one last year, loved it so much i have another (with custom paint) on the way.
Give Gregg a call, he's great to deal with.
I've had a Zurich and it's not even close to the quality of the Fort.