|I saw my very first Fred this weekend.||chopper|
Mar 31, 2003 10:23 AM
|Yes, its true. Although I've been riding seriously for about 6 years now I've never actually seen 'him', You know, the one decked out in all the team gear as well as the replica bike. Its seemed that everybody on this board would see 'him' about every week and I thought it curious that I'd never seen 'him', well, that was until this weekend.
I'm riding down a street very close to the University of Washington and here comes Victor Hugo Pena, seriously, that is what I thought, I mean he had on everything from the helmet to the socks to the team bike and for an instant I thought it was VHP. I thought maybe some personal issue brought him to this Professional wilderness for the weekend and he's out stretching his legs. But no, it looked to be a recreational rider, I must say it didn't make me laugh, didn't make me cringe, I jusy smiled and nodded because he did the same and we both were enjoying a 65 degree day in March without any rain. Hell, he was probably just stoked to get out on the bike with shorts and short sleeves.
I wonder how long it will be until my next siting?
|you're confusing poser w/a fred||ridingthegyro|
Mar 31, 2003 10:50 AM
|disagree with you||Steve_0|
Mar 31, 2003 11:53 AM
|a poseur, by definition, is one who pretends to be something he is not.
When I see people walking the village in cleats and spandex, those watching the core-states for 5 hours perched atop their lightspeeds, or even those who spend more time talking about riding than riding, i think 'poseur'; people more interested in looking like a rider than being a rider.
If the guy is out there riding (as our friend in full kit was), I cant rightly call him a poseur, regardless of his sense of fashion.
Still dont know what this ubiquitios fascination with a 'fred' is. I just toss it up to more poseurs attempting to prove THEIR dedication to cycling.
|we should take a poll: poser vs fred for this case||ridingthegyro|
Mar 31, 2003 12:42 PM
|seriously-whats the differance?nm||the bull|
Mar 31, 2003 11:54 AM
|I'm a Fred||Continental|
Mar 31, 2003 12:30 PM
|Mountain bike shoes on a Road bike. Plain white socks. A sport shirt instead of a cycling jersey. Rising stem with lots of spacers. A visor on the helmet. It's mostly question of fashion.
I'm not a poser. A poser tries to look like an elite racer, has an expensive, shiney racing bike, but is all show and no go. I'm no show and just a little go.
To be "cool" you have to have enough nice equipment and clothes to look like a serious cyclist, but not be decked out to look like a racing wannabe. There is no sport that is as fashion conscious as cycling. And I must admit I like the new jersey that I bought. Now, if I can just get rid of the white socks, take the visor off of my helmet, buy some road shoes, and ....
|I think I'm a poser...||TJeanloz|
Mar 31, 2003 12:35 PM
|I used to be a bike racer, but job commitments keep me from riding as much as I should. I still have a [few] fancy, shiny racing bikes, which are probably all show at this point. I ride for my own entertainment, rather than as "training" for some race, I think people should get over the whole judgement bit -- but that's just a poser perspective.|
|"There is no sport that is as fashion conscious as cycling" LOL||Kristin|
Mar 31, 2003 12:35 PM
|Now that's a funny remark. Ironic as well. No one looks dumber than when they are dressed up in their riding gear. Gawd. Clowns looks more fashionable that cyclists. If you ask me the whole fuss about cycling "fashion" is a bad case of over-compensation.|
|All sports are like this -- only the fashion is different...||TJeanloz|
Mar 31, 2003 12:38 PM
|There are some sports that are at least as fashion conscious, if not more: basketball, golf, tennis -- pretty much anything where the individual has some say in what he (or she) wears.|
|Not nude pudding wrestling!||Spoiler|
Mar 31, 2003 8:23 PM
|or nude volleyball
or nude catfights
or nude fishing
or nude midget tossing
or the sport of which I am presently taking part in: nude troll feeding!
one nude dude!
Mar 31, 2003 1:40 PM
|The best road duds still look geeky. I give credit to people who ride road bikes in regular or mtb clothes.|
|Hey, me too||laffeaux|
Mar 31, 2003 1:55 PM
|I have one helmet for biking and it happens to be a MTB helmet. I have two pairs of cycling shoes (both MTB). I like to wear cotton socks. My jersey rarely matches the name on my bike - I have several bikes and several jerseys with the brand names of those bikes, but I try not to wear a jersey that happens to match the bike I'm on.
Recently a co-worker laughed at me as I was wearing a rasta colored jersey, black lycra shorts with a pair of faded blue plaid shorts over them, and bright blue arm warmers. She asked if I was color blind.
I enjoy riding, and could care less what I wear or what others wear.
Mar 31, 2003 8:35 PM
|"Mountain bike shoes on a Road bike. Plain white socks. A sport shirt instead of a cycling jersey. Rising stem with lots of spacers. A visor on the helmet."
Hey, that's me! Actually, I have a rising stem with quill rather than spacers. Recently did start wearing cycling jerseys, but only solid colors.
|seriously, the diff:||Steve_0|
Mar 31, 2003 12:35 PM
|As I mentioned above, 'poseur' is an established word meaning 'someone who pretends to be someone/something he is not'.
'Fred', on the other hand, is a word used by poseurs to describe someone which does not fit their idealogy of a 'serious' cyclist.
|re: I saw my very first Fred this weekend.||Mariowannabe|
Mar 31, 2003 11:18 AM
|In Italy, these sightings are quite common. Middle-aged guy, full team kit, riding along slowly. After I wipe the drool off my chin after lusting after the bike, I think "at least he's riding". It would sort of be the same if I owned a Ferrari (fat chance of that). I'd wear a Ferrari jacket, buff the thing with a diaper, and (almost) never drive it over half its maximum speed.|
|As long as he's not dangerous, who cares?||fracisco|
Mar 31, 2003 12:49 PM
|As long as he's not running lights, shouting at cars, running down the MUT at 25 mph in the middle of the weekend day, weaving through traffic, etc.....who cares what he's riding or wearing.
So he's a fan, good for him.
Mar 31, 2003 1:03 PM
|I was out riding the other day, wearing my usual Rabobank team kit: jersey bibs, socks, gloves. My bike is an orange/white Colnago. Some guys passing the other way made some snide remarks about my being a poser. What do you think? I do work for Rabobank, after all.|
|If you had your head shaved bald like Levi....||fracisco|
Mar 31, 2003 1:12 PM
|then you might be a poser. You would also have to have a hot wife and 6 cats at home.
Otherwise, have a good ride!
|Actually, I aspire to become a fred...||The Walrus|
Mar 31, 2003 4:58 PM
|...because I don't think there's a name for my style (or lack thereof....)|
|Example of Fred(s)||Lone Gunman|
Mar 31, 2003 6:45 PM
|Fox Sports Network "Don't be that guy" commercial for 54321, especially the surf board one. Sort of reminds me of the pic of the guy with the donut gut in the red skinsuit that circulated last year.|
|Honest to God....||Lone Gunman|
Mar 31, 2003 6:50 PM
|I had NO idea that I would scroll down and find that pic!!|| |