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I am so freakin humbled(25 posts)

I am so freakin humbledDougSloan
Mar 31, 2003 8:13 AM
A friend of mine, Tim Coleman from Fresno, who twice crewed for me for the 508 is an absolute animal. He does things that simply blow me away.

He is going to do the Davis 24 hour time trial April 12, then the Race Across Oregon (540 miles) May 31. I am going to crew for him, and look forward to him maybe setting course records both times. Here's why.

Saturday, he did the Solvang Double, 190 miles, in 8:34! I can't even imagine that. Normalized for 200 miles, that would be 9 hours flat (22.1 mph). When I did a similar 196 mile course, I thought I was smoking at 10:15. He followed up with a 110 mile ride Sunday in the mountains.

He did the Death Valley Double March 1, with 25 mph gusting winds, rain, and hail, in 10:08. And this was with wearing only shorts and a jersey, no warm gear at all.

He has the course record for the Climb to Kaiser of 8:20, for 155 miles, 13,500 feet climbing up to 9,300 feet elevation. My best was 11 hours flat.

A few weeks ago, I rode a hilly century "with" him. He pulled on the flats at 25 mph, climbed so fast on the long hills that he'd turn around, come about 1/3 of the way back down, then ride up with me again. He has a Power Tap, and was typically making 380 watts the last 20 miles, where I was going anaerobic just to stay in his draft on the flats. Absolutely amazing.

I never thought I would, but I'm actually psyched to go crew for the guy. Should be interesting. I'll be sure to follow up with a report.

Anyone else know someone like this?

>>Anyone else know someone like this?<< Yeah, Lance Armstrong!!jtferraro
Mar 31, 2003 8:25 AM
Good luck, Doug! Someday I *might* be able to better relate to your friend's incredible accomplishments. No doubt though, that he is Superman, especially considering this is coming from...uh...*YOU*! =)

genetic nmJS Haiku Shop
Mar 31, 2003 8:29 AM
genetic -- single, no kids, too :-) nmDougSloan
Mar 31, 2003 8:31 AM
good job, nice pay, flexible hours? nmJS Haiku Shop
Mar 31, 2003 8:32 AM
And his phone number is....? (nm)PseuZQ
Mar 31, 2003 5:47 PM
Independantly wealthy? nmMel Erickson
Mar 31, 2003 8:48 AM
Mar 31, 2003 8:51 AM
8-5 biotech lab guy. He likes to ride -- a lot. Plus, when you are going 22 mph, it doesn't take as long... ;-)

Mar 31, 2003 9:01 AM
Ah, the solution for the "not enough time to train" issue:

Go faster!

Ha, if it were only so simple for the rest of us!

Obviously a very dedicated animal! nmMel Erickson
Mar 31, 2003 11:20 AM
Son of a buck! 380 watts for 100 miles. I'm impressed! (nm)Dale Brigham
Mar 31, 2003 8:50 AM
USPS is looking for "A Few Good Men"! nmJon Billheimer
Mar 31, 2003 9:06 AM
I've been humbled tooRJF
Mar 31, 2003 9:08 AM
Similar kind of thing -- I've ridden mountain bikes with national champ/olympian Don Myrah before. I use the term "ridden" loosely. He'd ride the trails with slicks on his mountain bike. It was just stunning how fast he could climb and descend (never mind that he was descending loose, rocky trails on 1-inch slicks). It was like he had an engine on his bike. It's just a different world.
re: I am so freakin humbledSharkman
Mar 31, 2003 9:35 AM
There's a guy in the Pacific NW scene, Scott Springer, who is pretty dominant in TTs. Don't know that what he does is so impressive from an endurance standpoint, but we recently had a TT in late January that his performance blew me away at.

It was a 20K TT, relatively flat course, but the wind was howling. It was next to Vancouver Lake, and there were whitecaps on the lake when most of us took off. Scott rode the course at just a hair under 29mph.

Pretty impressive to me.
Thats pdi (pretty damn impressive)!nmthe bull
Mar 31, 2003 10:29 AM
Amazing...Lon Norder
Mar 31, 2003 10:44 AM
When I saw him at Death Valley, in between snow squalls, wearing only a short sleave jersey and shorts, all I could do was smile and shake my head. The guy must be tough as nails.
sure isDougSloan
Mar 31, 2003 10:51 AM
He is absolutely focused at all times on going fast. That's it. Never looks up, waves, talks, etc. He's a machine.

He mentioned that at DVD, his hands were so cold that he had to shift with the sides of his hands; his fingers would not move. This while averaging 20 mph with all the wind and climbing.

That is just awesome!Rich_Racer
Mar 31, 2003 11:38 AM
So many miles a week does he ride?

In fact - I was going to ask you Doug - if Iwanted to do the 508, how is it possible to arrange a crew for it and how long does it take to train for it (given a starting point of comfortably riding about 30 miles a day, 6 days a week). I realise that's a vague!


Mar 31, 2003 2:06 PM
Tim rides about 250-400 a week. He rides really, really hard, though. I've seen him take off in a flat out sprint at the bottom of a 2500 foot climb. He must have an amazing ability to recover between workouts.

Hard to tell you what to think about the 508. As far as training, there is a lot of info at Personally, I would first get so I could comfortably do a moderately hilly double century in 11-12 hours. I finished mid-pack in the 508, and my 200 mile time in the race was 11.5 hours, after about 12,000 feet of climbing and with 308 miles to go. Before the 508, I was routinely doing solo unsupported doubles around 10-11 hours (total time, not just riding time), and had done some of the really hard California mountain doubles in 12-13 hours. So, I don't intend to discourage, but what I would do is first see if you can get to a fast, comfortable double, then start thinking about the 508.

If you do shoot for it, do a complete training plan with systematic increases in distance and speed. There are several reasons to do some long rides: 1. it conditions your body to burn more fat, saving your carbos; 2. you get used to sitting on a bike for long periods; and 3. you test yourself, food, hydration, and equipment, so you find out what works and doesn't work for you; what works for 100 miles may not work at all after 200.

If you plan to, start working on your logistics right away. There is a lot to plan, including crew. Get your hotel reservations, vehicles, signage, lighting, spares, all that out of the way early so you can focus on training and rest as the event nears. Line up some crew soon, and get some alternates.

I'd be happy to help more if you want.

info - thanks!Rich_Racer
Mar 31, 2003 3:21 PM
I was thinking very much on the same lines - in terms of comfortable double century's first. I already have a sort-of plan for increases in distance and speed. It's still only "sort-of" because I'm still recovering from two months of lung infection which is/has slowed me down a lot!! I was doing 5hr centuries a year ago - now, well . . . I'm not!

I think I have always been better at sprinting/short distances - maybe due to my rowing background, and I think moving over to a more endurance disapline is going to take a long time. It may be a genetic predisposition too, which I guess I can't correct much. Well, we'll see.

Anyway - as I'm assuming this is going to take a long time, and I doubt I'll be ready before 2004, even 2005. Being able to ride all year round, now I've moved to San Diego, will help a lot!!

Thanks again,


p.s. I sometimes take off on flat out sprint's on 2500ft climbs too. I usually blow up about 2400ft from the top though! ;)

p.p.s. I aplogise to the rest of the forum to subjecting them to all this conjecture!
Mar 31, 2003 3:54 PM
Sounds like you have some realistic time frames in mind. I wondered whether you meant this year, doing 30 mile rides. I was a little worried...

I think it would be safe to plan to do it 6 months after your first sub-11 hour (total time) double, even with drafting. With that foundation, you could confidently get ready in time.

Mar 31, 2003 4:49 PM
Btw - I'd be up for all the help you're willing to give me.(Not wishing to sound like I'm on a dating website but my email address is I'm used to training stupidly hard from rowing, but I want to train right. Also, as with Tim, I'm 26, unmarried, and kidless so I guess I can afford to throw some time at this!

I did do a hilly 70 miles yesterday - although it wasn't quick!

re: I am so freakin humbledCHRoadie
Mar 31, 2003 11:37 AM
I have a friend in my cycling club that races in the senior games and has won many gold medals. His riding time for the Solvang Century was 4:47 because he wanted to take it easy. I was doing intervals with him and another of our club members a while back. He would start behind us when we yelled 'go', and by the end of the interval (45 seconds) he was so far ahead he couldn't hear us yelling 'stop'. Just a monster.

You should tell your friend about Breathless Agony in May. Maybe he could set another course record!
Chris Kostman is probably like that.PeterRider
Mar 31, 2003 3:34 PM
I've never ridden with him, but I've seen his "biking resume" and it's quite impressive.

Mar 31, 2003 3:56 PM
I've ridden with him several times. I think he was much faster 15 years ago. He may be too busy with the events and school to train much now.