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handlebar height VS saddle height(3 posts)

handlebar height VS saddle heightpherret
Mar 27, 2003 12:30 PM
I have a specialized allez sport 58cm c-c 62 c-t. The TT is 575mm. I have a 34.5in inseam. My saddle height is 3-4in higher than my handle bar. What is the normal difference for some one that is not a racer? Also if I have to raise my bar, should I get a stem with more rise, (at the moment I use a 13cm stem with 10deg rise), or get a new fork and have spacers added, or a bigger frame? Wrench science said my frame size is 59c-c 61c-t with an overall reach of 72cm, others say it is 58c-c. Thanks in advance for the advice.

3-4 inches is common..C-40
Mar 27, 2003 12:48 PM
The saddle to bar height difference of 3-4 inches or 8-10cm is quite common.

Folks who aren't in great shape may not be able to handle this much and racers may use even more.

Are you already using spacers under the stem?

You should try a stem with more rise. Most -10 degree (also called 80 degree) stems can flipped to a 100 degree angle, which will raise the bars by 4cm. Flipping a 130mm, 80 degree stem will also shorten the length by 13mm. A 140mm length would be required to get approximately the same reach.

You might want to evaluate you knee over peedal (KOP)position. If someone has convinced you that placing the knee directly over the pedal is the only "proper" position, try moving the saddle back 1cm (3/8 inch) and down about 1/8 inch instead of buying a new stem.

If your frame has a horizontal top tube, one easy way to check for proper vertical frame size is measuring the vertical height of the saddle above the top tube, near the nose of the saddle. 17-18cm is common. More height indicates that the frame is smaller than necessary.
re: handlebar height VS saddle heightFredrico
Mar 27, 2003 1:22 PM
You might check Rivendell Bicycles site, the article by Bob Gordon, "Raise dat stem."

Handlebars 1-2" lower than the top of the saddle are more comfortable in the long run, than 3-4" lower. Riding on the tops you can sit up, rest your arms, stretch your upper body; on the hoods get a bit more aero and put some weight over the front wheel; and on the drops achieve the same aero advantage as with a lower stem. Low handlebars lock you into aero. Higher bars allow you to move around on the bike.

Your frame size and reach is probably fine. Saddle to handlebar distance should be maintained. If you raise the bars with a steeper angled stem, it would have to be a little longer. That would be the cheapest way to go, wouldn't it, compared to a new fork, which would offer no advantage in handling.