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:( new seatpost time. choices...suggestions? and a question:JS Haiku Shop
Mar 27, 2003 9:32 AM
i've posted once before about seatpost problems with the Ritchey Comp and heard similar stories in response.

the ol' ritchey comp on my steamroller has finally kicked the bucket. purchased from excel 18 months ago with the build kit, and has less than 1500 miles on it. the fore/aft adjustment keeps slipping and the nose of the saddle keeps going back to an exaggerated nose-up; very uncomfortable and very frustrating.

i've removed the saddle and cleaned the post, post head, and saddle rails. have also lightly sanded the contact points between seatpost head and clamp (where the fore/aft adjustment occurs), to no avail. this is starting to happen also with the Ritchey Comp on my Cross-Check (few more miles on it, but only 10 months "old").

no similar problems on the several road bikes before these, no problems on other current bikes. problem is isolated to the seatpost head on the Ritchey Comp model.

on tuesday i sent an e-mail to Ritchey and copied Excel detailing the problem(s) and asking if it was identified as a "known issue" with a fix or replacement program. no response.

so--the question first: is there a better way to get through to Ritchey?

second: if the Surly frames have a 27.2 mm seat tube diameter, that means 27.2 mm post, right?

and--i'm trying not to spend much money (of course). i don't care about weight or looks, just performance in these cases. what are some good options?

also--has anyone used kalloy seatposts? seem like generic/knock-off options, and can be had way way cheap. Wallingford actually carries them at only $18.

thanks in advance.

kalloy - does it include the clamp?Fez
Mar 27, 2003 9:37 AM
kalloy sells a real cheap post - but it is just the post and does not include the clamp. the one with the clamp is cheap also, but make sure you know which one you are getting.
both are offeredJS Haiku Shop
Mar 27, 2003 9:42 AM
the clamp-less one is 1/2 the price of the other.
both are offerednewhouse
Mar 27, 2003 12:44 PM
the kalloys that i have bought sucked. the first one lasted maybe 1000 miles before it started to not keep the seat in the level position i set it (nose starts going up). the second one did the same thing right from the get go. my buddy has used them and has had the same results. i recently bought the performance forte for $19 and so far so good.
Try Forte...Matno
Mar 27, 2003 10:08 AM
I just got one from Performance (it's their in-house brand) for $19. It supposedly only weighs 190g and looks to be solid. Even has an "aero" design (the top is narrower). Haven't used it a ton, but so far so good. It's a tried and true two-bolt design...
Second the forteDERICK
Mar 27, 2003 3:16 PM
I just put one on my bike. $19.00. 192 grams according to my postal scale. 2 bolt design is super easy to adjust and rock solid. I am very pleased.
Mar 27, 2003 10:09 AM

You can keep wearing them out, breaking them (ever see what happens to a rider when a seatpost breaks?) or you can just go get a Thomson.
absolutely the Thompsonlonefrontranger
Mar 27, 2003 10:14 AM
Haiku-baby, this is one of those cases of pay for it now, or pay for it later. Please do yourself a favor and get the Thompson. You will not ever regret it. They even look gorgeous and are easy to adjust to boot. This is truly a value item you will appreciate for years.

FWIW this is what went on my 'cross bike after my USE Alien landed me on my bum. I've used 'em for years on all my MTB's and 'cross bikes and don't know why I ever switched.
Yup...Mike Prince
Mar 27, 2003 12:00 PM
This is the way to go. Get one off ebay cheap and don't worry about it again. I use this on my main ride and no slipping or problems ever. As LFR said, pay now or pay later. This post may outlast your steamroller.
re: :( new seatpost time. choices...suggestions? and a question:trout_bum
Mar 27, 2003 10:13 AM
Syncros Road-Awhile back Bike Nashbar had these on closeout for $39.00. If they still have any left they may be even cheaper. I think it is as nice as a Thompson-both functionally and aesthetically.
don't know, yes, and a seatpost recommendation..._rt_
Mar 27, 2003 10:19 AM
sorry i have no suggestions as to how to get through to Ritchey.

yes, a 27.2mm seat tube uses a 27.2mm seatpost.

check out nashbar/performance/colorado cyclist for the syncros seatpost. a bunch of places are blowing them out right now and you can get 'em for cheap(alu). i've got an alu syncros on my mtb & a ti one on one of my road bikes. great posts! they use the same system of adjustment that thompson uses with fore & aft screws.

mtb post

Here you go, J;look271
Mar 27, 2003 10:31 AM
American Classic. I have one on my kg 271 (and now the 361) and they are light-weight, bullet-proof, easy to adjust, made in the good 'Ole US. Not too much moola, either.
Am Classic: Old = Good; New = Sucks big timeFez
Mar 27, 2003 1:56 PM
The old USA made one piece silver seatpost was pretty good and lightweight. Clamp design was OK, and silver finish hid scuffs well. And cheap at around $35.

The new ones are now 2 piece (bonded head makes for a failure point). Made in good old Taiwan. And finish is a cheap black that scuffs big after one insertion to the frame. Costs more than the old one. Major disappointment.

Old 1 piece = good
New 2 piece = bad

Make sure you know which one you are getting.
It's gotta be the bag : )Scot_Gore
Mar 27, 2003 10:40 AM
Mar 27, 2003 10:48 AM
very nicely done!

in actuality this became a problem on both bikes before the carradice bags and the rack were ever affixed (bags/rack: december/january).

I think you have a future in high-end graphic design. Not.
re: :( new seatpost time. choices...suggestions? and a question:Trent in WA
Mar 27, 2003 10:47 AM

This is probably more $$ than you want to pay, but the Salsa Shaft is pretty nice and works well w/ Brooks saddles (if that's what you have). It has fairly standard setback. Ultegra posts are nice, too.
The $20 Kalloy is a good cheap seatpost.MR_GRUMPY
Mar 27, 2003 11:09 AM
Very good, very cheap. Great, if your ego can stand it.
haiku baby .....Spirito
Mar 27, 2003 12:22 PM
i got a an old kalloy 27.2 post that you can have for free if ya want it ....

works fine, silver, not light, usual zig-zaging, and you pay for postage :-)

lemme know ....

re: :( new seatpost time. choices...suggestions? and a question:raptorUW
Mar 27, 2003 1:35 PM
sorry if i missed the thread on potential fixes, but this is worth trying if you have not already done so: Loctite.

Yes, i know...the initial reaction is "loctite is for threads, dummy!" ...but, give it a shot.

I recently used it to solve a slipping aspide/chorus combo. Between the curved rails of the saddle & the single bolt of the campy post, the combo would slip about 1cm after every 2-3 rides. Long story short, i used the blue loctite and have had no slippage since. Just layer it on the rails & clamp surface, let it set up for 5-10 min & assemble the seat and post. If blue loctite doesn't work, try the other colors (w/ higher adhesive properties).
it's not the saddle rail-seatpost joint,...JS Haiku Shop
Mar 28, 2003 6:34 AM
it's the seatpost clamp base versus clamp rocker that's slipping. the seatpost stays in place, but the whole assembly moves to shift the saddle rails back such that the nose is pointed toward the sky.

i'll try loctite anyhow, thanks for the hint.
re: Kalloy vs RitcheyThe Walrus
Mar 27, 2003 8:12 PM
Depending on the vintage of your "Ritchey" post, it might well be a Kalloy--I have a couple of the Speedblast-finish Comp posts (and stems) and they were plainly stamped "Kalloy" down where the diameter and insertion marks were. Imagine my surprise... For the record, I never had any clamping issues with 'em.

Now, for a truly awful clamp, get a Control Tech...
Don't get the KalloyStampertje
Mar 28, 2003 1:13 AM
You don't have to spend a lot of money but don't get the Kalloy. I broke a wrench trying to tighten the seatpost clamp on my CrossCheck enough to keep it from slipping, and the clamp didn't hold the saddle level. I may weigh 190# but even a cheap post shouldn't be that bad.

Case in point: I got a BBB (local Dutch brand) seatpost that uses a two-bolt clamp for about the same price as the Kalloy (about $15-20) and I couldn't be happier. The generic posts that have really wide and fairly deep ribs on the clamp also work well for me (have them on my fixte and on my commuter).
thanks again to all!JS Haiku Shop
Mar 28, 2003 6:40 AM
and after this post and a local face-to-face survey, i'm probably going with the thomson, and the synchros second. i may or may not try an american classic (advice above heeded) on the next build.

as with responses here (thanks LFR) i've heard many great things about thomson, including a rave about the value at that price point.

thanks again to all for the great input!

ps. i *called* ritchey yesterday and got alot of attitude from the guy who answered the phone. sounded like a p!ssed-off manhattanite. no offense intended to any p!ssed off big apple residents--it's just that dealing with an unhappy customer is not the right time for angst. he insisted that the customer service guy answers every e-mail sent within 2-3 days. this message was sent on monday. he said wait a few more days. surprising and disappointing. btw still no response from Excel (didn't expect one, but it would have been a nice touch).