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What could I get for an '02 LeMond Buenos Aires?(10 posts)

What could I get for an '02 LeMond Buenos Aires?Tower
Mar 23, 2003 10:27 AM
-Full Ultegra
-completely stock
-no pedals
-Less than 100 miles

What could I expect to get for this bike?

It's my wife's and she's a little concerned it's too big. She's coming from a mountain bike, so a little of her concern might just be the new posture.
I'd guess around $800jtolleson
Mar 23, 2003 10:30 AM
not really fair to you, I know, but the used bike market is just so soft. Plus assuming Lemond is like Trek, they don't honor warranties other than original purchaser.
According to the specsFez
Mar 23, 2003 11:28 AM
A completely stock Buenos Aires is not going to have "full" Ultegra. Might want to get to the bottom of this in the interest of full disclosure to the potential buyer.

But jtolleson is probably right about the price. Hopefully you could get a little more if it is virtually unused, but my local shop usually blows out end of year Lemonds at low prices. The Zurich (full Ultegra) was at around $1299 on clearance.
According to the specsPegLeg
Mar 23, 2003 12:28 PM
'02 Lemond BA
Ultegra Shifters, Derailers, Brakes
105 BB
HG 73 Chain (I think)

They also came with SPD 515 Pedals.
According to the specsPegLeg
Mar 23, 2003 12:31 PM
Almost Forgot, Ultegra Crank
105 Cassette, should be 12-25
According to the specsTwoBikes
Mar 23, 2003 6:20 PM
I also just saw an '02 Buenos Aires triple for $1299 at the LBS.
Thanks for the replies.Tower
Mar 23, 2003 6:38 PM
And for the clarification on the Ultegra/105 mix. It did come with the SPD pedals but I was figuring we'd keep them if we sold the bike. SPD's are easily obtainable at a decent price, so I could go either way with them.

I'm still hoping she will become more comfortable with the bike. We bought it on clearance late last year, and she just started riding it b/c I just got my Zurich. We changed her stem from a 130mm (what was Lemond thinking!?) to a 110mm and that seemed to help.

If she's still not comfortable with it after a few more rides, I might try a new seatpost with zero setback. Think that would help any?
It might help, but most folksdjg
Mar 23, 2003 9:54 PM
favor setting the saddle position independent of the desired reach to the bars. That is, you set your saddle (pick your setback etc) to get your hips and legs where you want them (KOPS, or a little behind, or a little in front, or what have you) and then start fiddling with stem choice and bar choice, if you have to, to get the reach you want. Is the LBS helping with the fit? If so, what do they say?

You say she liked switching from a 130 to a 110 mm stem. Cheaper than rushing to sell the bike would be a 100 mm stem (or maybe even a 90, which is about as short as most go) with a bit more rise than what she has now. It really doesn't have to be anything fancy to investigate whether she prefers a shorter reach (horizontally, vertically, or both) and can get comfortable with the handling. In any case, I'd be more inclined to try this than the seatpost switch (assuming you have a good reason for her current saddle position).
It might help, but most folksTower
Mar 24, 2003 5:59 AM
The LBS fit her to the bike when we bought it. Not sure what KOPS is, but they used the plumb bob (for lack of a better term) to center her knee over the ball of her foot, then watched her spin in the trainer, looking at her foot position. So I suppose the saddle position is about where it needs to be. I don't know why they didn't notice how long the stem was? Maybe LeMond slaps the same sized stem on all their sizes?

We took it to another LBS and they noticed the stem length and suggested the change. They were concerned about going much shorter b/c of steering issues, ie she might not like the quickness of the steering. The new stem has a pretty good rise to it, I'm guessing 80deg.

The hoods also seem to be mounted a bit too far down on the handlebar. We might try bringing them up a bit.

I'm still thinking it's just an adjustment period between the mountain bike to a road bike.
A few more considerationsFez
Mar 24, 2003 8:04 AM
I threw out my Lemond 01 and 02 books, but I don't think they spec'd a 53 c-c with a 130mm stem (stems are measured c-c and from the center of both axes, not just from the top).

Maybe someone at the LBS had changed it, or you measured it a little wrong.

A word about Lemond geometry. The bikes have slightly slacker seat tube angles (than competing brands) and a setback post. I shouldn't generalize about a woman's femur length, so you or your local bike fit expert should have her properly situated for a correct fore/aft saddle position. Personal preference also plays a part in how far back or fwd you want to be.

Once you figure it out, try for the saddle centered on the rails. A straight Thomson may do a better job than the setback one that originally came on the bike.

Once you get that position dialed in, fine tune the bar height and the stem length. If you want, give more info like the rider's cycling inseam, height, how much standover clearance there is, and what she was riding previously.

The BA is really a pretty good entry level road bike. Would hate to see it go, unless it didn't fit, of course.

Good luck.