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Weekend discussion: Is there a protocol for overtaking?(26 posts)

Weekend discussion: Is there a protocol for overtaking?Rich_Racer
Mar 22, 2003 3:42 PM
For some reason I get embarressed overtaking other cyclists when I'm out riding on my own - the better their bike and brighter their kit, the worse it is! I feel like I'm dissing their riding ability or something. Overtaking on a hill is worse again. I spend a lot of time sitting a few meters behind people going slower than I want to, just hoping they'll speed up!

Sometimes I think I should say hi but think maybe that makes it worse so I just ride past as if I'm hoping they won't notice or something! Sometimes I slow down a bit so I'm not passing too quickly! I think I just need to get over this but how do others feel!?
Maybe Im crazy but I am just the opposite!the bull
Mar 22, 2003 3:57 PM
I see someone off in the distance and I try to catch them.
Then right before I get up on them I save up some energy so when I pass them I have enough energy to keep going at a high speed so if they decide to draft I wont get tired right away.But I always say "have a good one"!
Me too.look271
Mar 22, 2003 4:29 PM
I had a guy in my sights today when he decided to make a "U-turn" and head back. Took all of my fun away! I especially enjoy overtaking people on hills. Yes, it's perverse, but at least I smile and say "hi" or something to that effect =)
Its even more fun when its someone you know!the bull
Mar 22, 2003 4:39 PM
Then you can sneak up behind them and grab their jersey pocket or make the sound of a flat tire(blow out your tight lips and pat your mouth as fast as the tires would move).
Or someone on Litespeed/Trek.look271
Mar 22, 2003 4:53 PM
Hehe. Sorry! =)
When lance says ,"Its not about the bike"....the bull
Mar 22, 2003 5:02 PM
I can understand.You would say that too if you had Treks!!
Now you've made me mad!!!!!! :-) (nm)TREKY
Mar 22, 2003 7:40 PM
It's nothing to be ashamed of.MikeBiker
Mar 22, 2003 4:01 PM
I get passed much more often than I pass someone. It doesn't bother me to have someone pass me. Most of the time they say hi or someother greeting as they go by.

Mike
re: Weekend discussion: Is there a protocol for overtaking?gs6769
Mar 22, 2003 4:15 PM
Hmmm. I've thought about this from time to time and have come to the conclusion that it's 'just one of those things'. Sometimes you pass, sometime you get passed. I usually acknowledge the person I'm passing with at least a nod, sometimes a hi, sometimes returned, sometimes not. Remember too that everybody isn't riding to the absolute limit of their capabilities every minute. Sometimes someone is taking a breather or just plain isn't concerned with speed. Still, I'm not above chasing somebody down now and again. IMO it adds to the fun as you're not a jerk about it.
oopsgs6769
Mar 22, 2003 4:20 PM
I meant "as long as you're not a jerk about it", but you would have figured that out for yourself.
re: Weekend discussion: Is there a protocol for overtaking?DINOSAUR
Mar 22, 2003 4:33 PM
I get passed, I pass other people, I never have anyone sneak up on me as I wear a mirror. I always acknowledge the person I am passing. Sometimes we will ride together for a couple of miles or so. I've met some real neat people this way. You can't always judge someone by how they are riding on a certain day. Maybe they are on their first 5 miles and I'm on mile 40 and heading back home. I see them all, hard cord roadie type, weekend warriors, and Cat 1/2 teams out for a team ride. I don't like to get passed, but there is always someone out there faster than I am. You can't always judge a book by it's cover I've found..it also might depend on where you live and the number of cyclists you encounter. I encounter very few cyclist where I live, especially in the winter. I rode for two weeks in the San Jose area and I got tired of waving at other cyclists as there were so darn many of them....
re: Weekend discussion: Is there a protocol for overtaking?spuncrazy
Mar 23, 2003 6:25 AM
Good points. Yeterday we were about 45miles into our weekly century and we flew past a cyclist in his local team kit. He had jumped to get on the back. He rode last man for about 7 miles then passed us and made a turn east. One of our guys talked to him, he was on mile 157 of a double century.
Call out before passing to let him/her know you're thereteamsloppy
Mar 22, 2003 4:46 PM
You should ALWAYS make some verbal remark BEFORE you overtake them so that they know you are there and don't accidentally swerve into you.

'On your left' is the traditional expression.

I say "bicycle passing" because I use the same expression for pedestrians, MUTs, roller bladers, kids on bikes and that guy from India or Pakistan riding up and down Danville Blvd. in slow speed on a cruiser bike from Sears. It's my verbal replacement for those obnoxiuos bells.

With a cyclist,when I am even with them I usually say good morning, great day, nice night or nice bike. I know I like it when someone compliments my bike (even as they blow by me).
Excellent point.gs6769
Mar 22, 2003 4:54 PM
"On your left" has helped me avoid crashes more than once. As important a habit as signaling your turns.
"how you doin?" + wave nmDougSloan
Mar 22, 2003 4:52 PM
re: Weekend discussion: Is there a protocol for overtaking?twobits
Mar 22, 2003 6:37 PM
while being passed:
stick pump between fork and wheel.

while passing:
same as above. unless their riding a trek. that would be cruel enough.
The worst is when...Matno
Mar 22, 2003 6:57 PM
you CAN'T overtake someone. I was traumatized the last time I tried that. I saw a guy about 200 yards ahead of me going up the same hill so I tried to catch him. Couldn't do it, so I figured I'd be sure to catch him on the downhill side if I really pushed it. Not a chance. Finally caught up after close to a mile of near-sprinting. Imagine my surprise when I saw that a) it wasn't a guy! and b) she was about 5'4" and well over 200 lbs! I was shocked. I'm not talking big-boned, this girl was just plain FAT, and I couldn't keep up with her! (Of course, once I got close to the spandex, I didn't really want to...) It was downright demoralizing. I guess it just goes to show that not all fat people are in bad shape!
And you couldn't over-take her on a hill?!look271
Mar 22, 2003 7:09 PM
Oh, the shame! You may as well just go out and slit your wrists now! Life is not worth living. ;-)
Dude...YOU are a RIOT!!!!Ride-Fly
Mar 22, 2003 8:08 PM
I hadn't had such a good laugh in quite a long time!!! Thanks bro!! I still can't believe you fessed up to that story!!! Now on to the fat chick- did she have any potential??? I'm guessing a fat chick that can ride like that will be losing a lot of her fat in less than 6 months. If she had a cute face, hmmm....Might wanna be there for her when she drops that 80-90 lbs know what I mean??? Take for example Carne Wilson, the fat chick singer from the band Wilson Phillips. She looks
i good
now. Wouldn't have touched her with 10 ft pole before but it goes to show that sometimes you can't even tell if a fat chick has any potential. I'm still laughing.... Ride ON!!!
Wellll....While she may be fat, you just plain suck. ;-)PseuZQ
Mar 22, 2003 8:28 PM
Muwahahha...FACE!!!

Full disclosure, yeah, I'm a chick, and yeah, I could lose about 20.

(Take this in the friendly competitive spirit in which it is intended...I'm just giving you sh*t, and promise to wave and say hi to you when I pass you.)
Thank you, PseuZQ!MelMo
Mar 23, 2003 12:51 AM
I've wanted to post something to that effect here before...fat slow chicks on bikes get faster and skinnier, but some of the boys here never grow up. ;)

Melinda
Sound like you caught her though!the bull
Mar 23, 2003 5:33 AM
An I give the balls of steel award for fessin up to that one
that put you on my "cool guy list"!
Yup...dave_w
Mar 23, 2003 1:55 PM
Years ago I did a half Ironman and was passed like I was a speed bump by a girl that LOOKED out of shape, big and soft. Under the outer layer she had muscle a-plenty. I flatted and ended up with a 21.5 mph avg, she must have been 24+ for the 56 miles. Glad I learned early to not judge a book...
'talk about mud flaps, that girl's gott'em!!' ;-) nmSpunout
Mar 24, 2003 4:30 AM
did you see the ultra-swimmer on Letterman a couple weeks ago?tarwheel
Mar 24, 2003 6:00 AM
I can't remember her name, but this woman is the premier distance swimmer in the world. She has set the world's record for swimming the English channel and a bunch of other events. She just became the first person to swim in the icy waters around Antarctica. Anyway, she is a hefty woman that nobody would ever mistake for a model, but she is a world-class athlete. New Yorker magazine had a great article about her recently (sorry I can't remember the name), but I was very impressed. This woman swims miles and miles each week, but would look overweight to most people.
Yeah, and on 60 minutes, too.PseuZQ
Mar 24, 2003 9:31 AM
She was cool!! It's funny, I found myself surprised by her *apparent* body composition as well. (and I hope that doesn't make me sound hypocritical...) But I suspect it's that insulation that allows her to so what she does.

If you confess to watching reality TV, contrast this with some of the women on "Survivor" who went in already super-thin. Wow....talk about catabolism in action, like, ewwww.