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too neuroticraleigh rider
Mar 20, 2003 7:48 PM
I know this is petty, but it sort of bothers me when I see guys out on the road on their nice, competition level bikes, wearing great gear, but pedaling with their knees wide out. I know it doesn't matter because US Postal isn't calling any of us, but those knees really get my attention. And, have you noticed the riders who wear their helmets on the backs of their heads like little sun bonnets? This isn't serious stuff of course - - just some silly observations . . .

Be honest - what things have privately annoyed you?
the nodFrith
Mar 20, 2003 8:15 PM
When I pass a roadie going in the opposite direction I give a nod. A little gesture that says a whole bunch and very little at the same time. What is it that makes them too cool to nod back. The older roadies do it. Mountain bikers do it when I pass them on the trail.
Is it a competetive thing. Like "maybe if I don't acknowledge this guys nod he'll think I can dust him...yeah that's right I'm bad"
OK then well I've delved far enough into this issue for one life time...goodnight.
ASSumptions...SmogRider
Mar 20, 2003 11:34 PM
most of what's been mentioned;

the no-nod (dude, you're too hardcore to say 'hey'?)

anyone with a noisy chain. Makes me want to stop 'em and offer lube.

I was riding on the bike path recently and I sided up to another rider. After some small talk, he looks at my bike and says "So, you brought the BEATER out today huh?"

What makes him think this isn't my
i only
bike??!!

To which I replied: "Yeah, but riding FIXED is so much fun"

cue the double-take to the drivetrain.

"Oh, wow." mmm hmmm :D
sorry!the bull
Mar 21, 2003 12:31 AM
The other day I passed a guy on my way back in.He said hey whats up?I just looked at him as I passed him.
I started to think about it and before I realized what a ass I had been it was too late!But let me tell you something -I was tired to tired to really think about being polite.The look he must have seen was me looking at him like I wanted to kill him.But I was just tired.I usually say hey to people when I see them on the road.
unlees there on a trek or have areo bars (just kidding folks).
Not too much.MR_GRUMPY
Mar 20, 2003 8:35 PM
The only thing that annoys me are the jerks who can ride faster than me, and the lightweights who ride away from me in the hills....... (May they rot in Hell)
I don't have any problem with the guys that I can outsprint.
wheelsuckers with noisy drivetrains nmgtx
Mar 20, 2003 9:23 PM
Only bothers me if they can ride faster than me, even withFez
Mar 20, 2003 10:12 PM
that god awful form.
pet peevestarwheel
Mar 21, 2003 5:20 AM
-- skinny little guys who fly up the hills and then coast on the downhills, where us big guys make up time
-- squeeky chains that apparently haven't seen any lube in months
-- squirrely riders who can't hold a line or a consistent pace
-- cyclists in a paceline who don't point out potholes, gravel, branches in the road, etc.
-- guys who never stop for breaks on long group rides, for those who need water or pee stops
-- bikes with ratty, torn and stained bar tape. the stuff only costs $10 a roll, why not keep it clean? buy black if you don't like to fool with it.
-- saddle bags that hang crooked and swing like they're about to fall off the bike
-- weight weenies who don't carry basic gear for fixing flats and expect others to bail them out
Fat guys who tell me how little their bikes weigh. nmdzrider
Mar 21, 2003 5:56 AM
Fat guys who tell me how little their bikes weigh. - lolfliparagon
Mar 21, 2003 2:16 PM
I have a mtb riding buddy who's 5'5" and weighs 265 pounds. During our weekend group rides, he's the guy who we're always waiting on at the top of the "my lungs are gonna explode" hills. Tries as he does, he is carrying a ton of weight everytime he spins along and can never keep up. To top it off, he is constantly trying to "upgrade" his steed to make it "lighter."

Now, wanting to participate in our road rides, he acquired a GT road frame he is slowly building up. Of course, he's going to the chi-chi parts, trying to make the lightest steed. I've attempted to tell him in a polite way that he should first try to shave weight off of his behind before spending endless amounts of cash on the latest and lightest parts (something we're all guilty of).

Anyways, the comment above made me think of him... Keep riding Ernie!
ok; how fat can I get before I have to stop doing that? nmDougSloan
Mar 21, 2003 3:23 PM
'hardcore' fair-weather riders...rant withheld. nmJS Haiku Shop
Mar 21, 2003 6:35 AM
guilty. nmDougSloan
Mar 21, 2003 7:17 AM
you have 508 get-out-of-jail-free cards. nmJS Haiku Shop
Mar 21, 2003 7:37 AM
thanks. I think I've used a number of them, though. nmDougSloan
Mar 21, 2003 8:30 AM
you know where to get more if you run out. nmJS Haiku Shop
Mar 21, 2003 8:40 AM
Pacelines that pass me too closely with no warning.Spoke Wrench
Mar 21, 2003 6:40 AM
Usually the first guy leaves me a decent amount of space, but the guys toward the rear keep creeping gradually closer. If you don't know me, how can you be sure that I'm not going to do something utterly unpredictable? An "On your left" would be appreciated too. Is that too much to ask?
On your left means they move into your way for most. nmeschelon
Mar 21, 2003 8:44 AM
Neurotic people who can't enjoy a ride :) nmMike Prince
Mar 21, 2003 6:50 AM
Hammer heads that don't race...biknben
Mar 21, 2003 6:53 AM
I know too many cowards that will talk sh!t all day and bust ass on training rides but never show up for a race.

Don't show up for my recovery ride ready and push the pace. Then, on my interval days, give excuses for not being at your best.

Then top that off with training advice and criticism. Shut the FOCK up!!!

"Speak softly and carry a big stick" -FDR (I think)
Teddy, actually, not Franklin (nm)vindicator
Mar 21, 2003 7:01 AM
Thanks...I fell asleep often in history class (nm)biknben
Mar 21, 2003 7:24 AM
Hammer heads that don't race...MR_GRUMPY
Mar 21, 2003 8:25 AM
Amen to that.
Teddy Roosevelt (nm)Howard
Mar 24, 2003 6:35 AM
These 3 things:Continental
Mar 21, 2003 7:11 AM
1. Guy's who outweight me by 50 lbs, have a big gut, and blow past me uphill. More humiliating than annoying.

2. Anyone slower than me on a bike that's worth more than 3X mine.

3. People annoyed by petty crap annoy me. I especially get annoyed at myself for being annoyed by others.
#3 is awesome...biknben
Mar 21, 2003 7:22 AM
"People annoyed by petty crap annoy me"

I was going to spat out against whiners but chose the hammerheads instead. Your response (#3) hit the nail on the head. I hate whiners because they will complain about the petty crap. I always what to scream "Suck it Up" in their face.
King of the Mtn Jeseys in the midwest?filtersweep
Mar 21, 2003 7:12 AM
-I know it doesn't matter, but the absurdity of it all...

I don't mind seeing pro team gear, but when I see someone with a FULL team kit (matching helmet, jersey, bibs, gloves, glasses, BIKE and shoe covers????) riding 5mph on an MUT, it really makes me wonder if they are wearing aluminum foil under their helmet.
recovery days? nmDougSloan
Mar 21, 2003 7:16 AM
but be careful who you are criticizingDougSloan
Mar 21, 2003 7:16 AM
I once road alongside a rider going at a ridiculously slow cadence, knees sort of out, on the aerobars 99% of the time, carrying too much stuff, heaephones and mp3 player, etc. Someone soon pointed out it was Seana Hogan, 5 time RAAM women's champion and transcontinental record holder, who could crush any of us any time she wanted.

What bothers me? Bad behavior, mostly:

*running stop signs and lights
*weaving
*riding 2 or more abreast and blocking traffic
*not pointing hazards out
*doing the reverse "punt" when initially standing
*surging when going to the front of a paceline
*things clanging around in saddlebag
*showing up for a ride late, then making everyone wait as you decide to do annual maintenance on the bike
*lingering at water stops forever, holding the group up
*crossing center lines on mountain descents
*b.o./dirty duds
*just being an a$$hole in general

Doug

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A friend of mine took Mr. Lance Armstrong out for a spin whenbill
Mar 21, 2003 7:27 AM
he was in Washington after winning the 2001 Tour. (My friend is a LBS owner who is a pretty big Trek seller and who built up the Trek that Armstrong presented to, if I'm not mistaken, Laura Bush). After being told to meet Armstrong at his hotel at such and such a time without telling anyone else, he was surprised to see Armstrong coming out in his full USPS team kit. I asked whether anyone recognized him. As far as he could tell, he said, no (their Friday afternoon ride included several bike trails and commuter routes). What was the pace? Mellow, he said. I asked whether he noticed anything about Armstrong's form. He said, yeah, it was lousy. All elbows and knees. And he talked trash the whole time on the trails -- yelling at people to get the $&*# out of the way.
There you have it -- guy in full team kit, going slow, bad form, talking trash.
He added that Armstrong was a really fun guy to ride with and seemed very nice, talking about kids and stuff.
No wonder you like the ultra-endurance stuff...biknben
Mar 21, 2003 7:30 AM
All the shorter rides will piss you off. :-)

BTW: What is a "reverse Punt while standing"?
Second the reverse punt (and if I may)...Spunout
Mar 21, 2003 7:55 AM
I climb seated. Sometimes you get behind someone who gets out of the saddle every 20 seconds, and they do it by moving the body forward. Inertia being what it is, the bike literally stops for a split second. If you are drafting this person, their bike shoots back one foot, right into your front wheel.

When I was younger, we practiced getting out of the saddle by pushing out of the pedal under power, that way the bike does not slow down as your body moves forward, and you don't wipe out the people behind you.

I think we should all practice this, I still do!
yup; it's not hard to avoid, if you try nmDougSloan
Mar 21, 2003 8:34 AM
General climbing questionKristin
Mar 21, 2003 8:52 AM
When I get out of the saddle to climb I lean WAY forward on my bike. I also notice that I run out of steam quickly. Now this is in part due to weak cardio. But I have watched other people climb and notice that they keep their butt pretty much over the saddle while standing. Is that the proper climbing position? What are the benefits of doing it that way? Or are both positions correct and simply a matter of preferance?
bothDougSloan
Mar 21, 2003 9:23 AM
I've really worked on standing climbing over the years, for various reasons, you need to accellerate hard, geared out, or just change it up to work different muscles.

For the last reason, it pays to be able to stand in several positions. Forward, rearward, more hip action, etc. Typically, though, when I'm most comfortable, I'm must barely in front of the saddle, even touching it a bit.

You are probably forward because you then support your weight more with your arms, taking some weight off your legs.

In any event, living in Chicago, I wouldn't worry about it much.

Doug
bothSpunout
Mar 21, 2003 9:39 AM
I've found that doing weights in the winter dramatically improves standing performance. Keep your upper body steady, let the nose of the seat brush your thighs (huuh,,huh..huh...).

Keep the weight off your hands, that is wasted power that could be going to the pedals.
True she could out-ride any of us, but she stillFez
Mar 21, 2003 7:48 AM
could be a potential nuisance listening to the tunes with the headphones. So if the criticism fits...
Anyone who doesn't ride just like me!Kristin
Mar 21, 2003 7:18 AM
Just kidding. Actually, not much annoys me. This is probably because I have a humble perspective...not humble as in, "Aren't you amazed at how humble I am?" But humble in that I'm slower, heavier and have poorer form than absolutely everyone else in Volers. Plus my bike is entry level.... I pretty much get to look up to everyone.
dress/bike matter not. ride lots and the rest will come. nmJS Haiku Shop
Mar 21, 2003 7:42 AM
I hope you're right. At least I can't lose any fitness.Kristin
Mar 21, 2003 7:47 AM
I decided to do an hour on the elyptical yesterday. I put my HRM on first, then put on my lycra stuff. I reached my aerobic threshold before I even got to the machine! There is some consolation in knowing that my fitness can only improve.
I bet you'll use a trainer and Spin classes next yearColnagoFE
Mar 21, 2003 8:35 AM
Not to be critical, but that's pretty much par for the course for a person who takes 4 months off!
I hope you're right. At least I can't lose any fitness.noveread
Mar 21, 2003 10:41 AM
"I reached my aerobic threshold before I even got to the machine!"

Kristin, that is very funny!

Looks like we will have a dry weekend, get out and ride! :)

Noveread
re: too neuroticjradford
Mar 21, 2003 7:24 AM
there is a guy that comes out on our club rides and has a cracked frame. He asked the LBS if they can fix it. They told him no and he should get a new one. But he still rides with us.

this man scares me every time I draft behind him in a pace line. If his bike finally decides to go his going to take me with him. We all have told him but it just does not seam to sink in. well the justification I have is on day it will give out :-)

next annoyance, people coming from behind me to run a red light on a group ride.
rattling tool kits...sounds like a bucket of bolts(nm)ukiahb
Mar 21, 2003 7:28 AM
What really peeves me isKen of Fresno
Mar 21, 2003 7:34 AM
people that pay too much attention to what others look like.
re: too neuroticFredrico
Mar 21, 2003 8:00 AM
Guys, or frequently a guy trying to impress a girl, or vice versa, they pass me with authority, get a bit furthur up the bike path, then slow down. I eventually catch them, and they act insulted when I go to pass them.

Two guys, always, riding side by side, talking, pedaling at a leisurely pace, each working like hell, but trying to convince the other they're just resting.

I agree, cyclists should be friendlier to each other. After all, we're all out for the pleasure of the ride and should be free to share the fun. I've thought many times that many rude or nasty riders are that way because they're working really hard, or have just worked hard, and are hurting. They're on the edge of anaerobic and get annoyed at any distraction to their concentration. They'll have a really determined scowl on their face, like they're mad. They'll get really impatient with impediments to their progress, like cars, or other people on the bike paths, and are likely to take anything you say to them wrong.
People with headphones52-16SS
Mar 21, 2003 8:04 AM
People, who absolutely needs to listen to their mp3 player or radio while riding mildly annoys me, with headphones they are not capable of hearing traffic, other riders etc. + it makes them seem indifferent to their surroundings (they probably are). One woman I passed once actually had a radio tied to her handlebar playing out loud while she was on her aero bar??. If you want music and cycling stay in spinning class or on your trainer in front of the TV
I completely disagreeKristin
Mar 21, 2003 8:43 AM
On the day that someone actually causes you to crash because they were listening to music while riding, then I'd say you have a valid rant. But then your rant would only be for that one person.

I don't get is this whole, "Everyone ought to do whatever I want at any given moment, me, me, me" attitude in America these days. The concept of personal boudaries seems to be compeletly lost. Geez, why can't you let people do what they want and be who they want to be? Why is it that someone listening to a pair of headphones bothers you?

Personally, I listen to headphones when I ride on local trails and I have NEVER been unsafe, gotten surprised, or caused trouble as a result. EVER. I have also NEVER seen anyone riding with headphones on the side of a busy street. EVER. Once in a while I'll pass someone on a hybrid wearing headphones on Wilke Ave on their way home from the MUT, but they are always on the sidewalk and riding slowly. Most people with enough balls to play in 45MPH traffic have enough brains to take off their headphones at that point.

I guess I was wrong. My secret annoyance is people who waiste energy fretting over what they like/don't like about others.
Easy girl. I don't like people with headphones, either, and it'bill
Mar 21, 2003 8:53 AM
not because I am worried about what they do or don't do in their spare time or whether they smoke the same cigarettes or how white their shirts can be or whatever. I worry about headphones on riders for the same reason I worry about headphones on bladers or joggers or carriage pushers -- I worry that they are not going to hear me, and do something stupid because they can't hear me, and endanger me. I suppose I also am less than interested in hurting them, too (can I say that?). I may call out a warning to people, but I have no clue that my warning has been heard or heeded if they have electronics in their ear.
Well, that's your choiceKristin
Mar 21, 2003 9:07 AM
But I wear them and I'm careful--never caused a problem before. You probably don't ever want to ride on the Prarie Path in IL.
Well, no. The point here is that someone ELSE has made abill
Mar 21, 2003 9:25 AM
choice that has affected me in a way that sort of seems unnecessary and a tad dangerous. I now have to be more careful and vigilant. That's not my choice.
That's it pilgrim, put yer dukes up!Kristin
Mar 21, 2003 9:44 AM
I think that if you weren't riding over 10MPH on MUT's this would be a non-issue for you. Legally speaking, when you pass a headphone wearing blader, jogger or cyclist at 15+MPH on your bike; you're likely the only one breaking any laws. I can speak only for my own state. We have no headphone law for bikes. However, our MUT's (and most MUTs in the US) have speed limits laws that are competely abandoned by cyclists.

I'm not trying to get all uppety here, but I'm very safe during rides when I choose to listen to some tunes, and I have every right to defend that.
Prarie Path: Is that the one that runs to Dekalb?...serbski
Mar 21, 2003 1:21 PM
Just curious cos I ran on that thing once from Dekalb in December while there on business and man was it just a flat wind-tunnel! Though the idea of cycling to/from Chicago or even doing an ultra-distance run on it is enticing.
You may have been on the Great Western Trail or the SycamoreKristin
Mar 21, 2003 2:11 PM
The GWT connects to the Prarie Path in downtown St. Charles before crossing the Fox River. The Prarie Path and GWT are both limestone rail trails. Sometimes they merge and sometimes they run parellel to each other 2-4 miles apart. The Prarie Path (IP) runs north/south along the Fox River from Dundee to Aurora, and east/west between the Fox River and Maywood. Its about 60 miles long if you ride the whole triangle. The IP is a pretty path, but it intersects a lot of streets, so you end up stopping fairly frequently. Some of the intersections (Prince crossing, Farnsworth, Main St. Lombard) have heavy traffic and no controls. I do enjoy riding there, but only if I'm going at a slow pace and have mellow goals. You'll never hammer on it.

One tip, if you ever ride from DeKalb to Maywood, then make sure to stay on the Prarie Path after St. Charles. After the GWT crosses the Fox River the trees become spase and the path gets real dusty (not many people ride it anymore). Also, you don't really want to ride all the way to Maywood unless you're going downtown. Personally I wouldn't go farther than Elmhurst. After that you get into some ghetto's. The same goes for the stretch of path that runs through Aurora. I've even seem some gang symbols on the path in Aurora.

I'm sure there is a way to get from the IP into downtown Chicago, but I don't know any routes for that. The IP ends outside of the city limits.

Prarie Path:
http://www.ipp.org/GUI/index.html

Great Western Trail:
http://www.co.kane.il.us/Forest/gwtrail.htm

If you're ever in the area and want to do a pokey ride on the path, let me know. I'll show you around.
You may have been on the Great Western Trail or the Sycamoreserbski
Mar 21, 2003 3:22 PM
Thanks for the info. If I'm in Chicago I will certainly take you up on the kind offer to go riding. Gotta say I love the Lakeshore bike path for hammering flat, race pace marathon miles (I'm a runner first and a cyclist by necessity though I totally love it!). Thanks again.
I completely disagree52-16SS
Mar 21, 2003 9:25 AM
I probably should have emphasized that the earphone thing bothers me mainly on organized rides - riding individually and commuting are usually at the riders own risk, while on organized rides with the amount of people participating, constantly overtaking one another, the risk suddenly applies to others, hence it becomes my business what other people do.

(IMO what is wrong with America is that lack of consideration to others)

Yours in sport,

SS
Then I agree completely. Times when I think headphones are bad:Kristin
Mar 21, 2003 9:36 AM
Group Rides (Why ride in a group if you're going to be anti-social anyway?)
Riding on the street in traffic over 30 MPH
Riding on an MUT at a busy time of the day (Saturday at 1pm)
Probably some other times that I can't think of right now.

Basically, when I need to just grind away for 2+ hours at a steady pace, it really helps to have some music. I always use common sense, and like I said, I've never created a dangerous situation for anyone. I can still hear what's going on around me and stay as far to the right as possible. It pisses me off that people judge me for that. (Not saying that you do that, but plenty of people do.)

You're right in your last point. I think the "get the hell outta my way," and the lack of consideration kinda go hand-n-hand. I fall prey to those attitudes myself sometimes, but I try to catch myself when I do, cuz it sucks to be on the receiving end of it.
Actually, the MUT is probably the most dangerous place toFez
Mar 21, 2003 9:37 AM
wear headphones.

I'm not going to comment on whether I think folks should wear them or not (plenty of posts in the past on this). But I do think its every bit as dangerous or more dangerous to wear them on a MUT as compared to the sidewalk or road.

There's an awful lot of passing/being passed on the MUT and the lanes are narrow (little room for error). Also, a passing automobile from behind usually makes more noise than a passing cyclist on a MUT, so unimpaired hearing is more important on the MUT.

Be safe and good luck.
So what if I like to fire off a few rounds in the post office,djg
Mar 21, 2003 10:09 AM
I do it in the most responsible way possible and I have never noticed myself being unsafe in anyway. Certainly, I have never noticed myself causing physical harm to another person to the extent that the person fell on top of me, which I am sure I would have noticed, despite my wearing headphones because of my concern with the chronic hearing loss that firearms may cause to the careless.

Yeah, some folks ride way too fast on crowded MUTS. Some folks ride way too fast, demonstrating just how poorly they can handle a bike with aero bars, on crowded muts. But headphones are just one of those things that makes crowded muts less safe. I have slowed to walking speeds and have had people cut me off because they didn't hear my repeated warnings. This mostly happens with bladers, but it happens with cyclists too.

Another pet peeve: the Olive Garden. Scattante is more Italian than the Olive Garden. But I digress.
helmet hanging from the handlebars_rt_
Mar 21, 2003 8:56 AM
ARRRGGGH!

or no helmet at all. really bugs me. i don't care how euro-cool you are. your head is not made of cement & your brain is going to get you a lot further than your cycling.

completely agree on the knees out thing. i see the same guy commuting every morning & his saddle is at least 3 inches too low. one day i will pull up along side him & offer to raise his seat!

rt
All of them . . . and a word on the kitRJF
Mar 21, 2003 9:00 AM
A lot of those made me laugh. Good stuff.

A word on the full kit folks: A buddy of mine was out on a training ride this winter and came across a guy in a full Cofidis kit. Socks. Shirt. Jacket. Etc. "What a weenie," my friend thought to himself. Then, after reaching a turnaround point, he noticed the guy again. Even his BIKE was a Cofidis team bike. "Weenie," he thought. My buddy started talking to the guy and he's got a Euro accent. It turns out he was actually a Cofidis team rider. Rode the tour last year, finishing mid-pack. Forger the guys name. Anyway, his girlfriend lives here in the Northwest and he was in town visiting her before heading off to camp. Thought that was pretty funny.
Maybe...Fez
Mar 21, 2003 9:43 AM
he just said he was on the team. That's a true poser for you... full team gear and a story to match.

Just kidding. I wish I had spotted a team rider.
similar storytarwheel
Mar 21, 2003 10:28 AM
I was on a ride last summer in Greenville, SC, when we saw a couple cyclists approaching. One of them was wearing a full US Postal team kit and riding a USPS Trek. When we got a little closer, realized it was George Hincapie on a training ride. No mistaking those glasses. (He owns a home near Greenville, so it was definitely him.)
The only things that bother meMel Erickson
Mar 21, 2003 9:44 AM
are things that might endanger me, like squirley riders in a pace line. Other than that, who cares? Life's too short to be bothered by the petty stuff. If you're on a bike and not endangering my safety, more power to you.
relaxed geometry128
Mar 21, 2003 9:58 AM
children w/o helmets
'busy' jerseys (looks like tv)
sloping top tubes + other style violations

nothing bothers me really, except cars

oh, and that 6'3" guy on the mut, roller blading waving his arms like a speed skater going too fast and weaving and NEVER looking around.

(great thread. rbr oscar nomination)
people wearing beer coolers on their headbcm119
Mar 21, 2003 9:59 AM
you know the kind- plain white styrofoam helmets from K Mart circa 1982. I work with a hard core retro-grouch and even he has a modern helmet. I'm very tolerant of people and it takes alot to really annoy me, but these folks can really get to me. In the worst cases, they will blow by you on their squeeky old ten-speed on a recovery day, with no warning, as if to say "looks like all that money you spent on your bike didn't get you anywhere". My thoughts are this: if they like riding fast, value their fitness and their life, why not invest in a faster bike and safer helmet?
MMMmmm. Beer. So this is okay then?Spunout
Mar 21, 2003 10:09 AM
must-have cycling gearJS Haiku Shop
Mar 21, 2003 10:17 AM
http://www.twistedgifts.com/catalog/items/item287.htm
Cyclo-Derby: Red team, blue team, black team. LOL! nmSpunout
Mar 21, 2003 10:23 AM
Are those the Euro helmetsMel Erickson
Mar 21, 2003 10:59 AM
forget the name, where the bill is worn in the back? I need one so I have the whole kit.
I think you've got some issuesMel Erickson
Mar 21, 2003 10:09 AM
"...they will blow by you on their squeeky old ten-speed on a recovery day, with no warning, as if to say "looks like all that money you spent on your bike didn't get you anywhere"." A tad bit insecure are we?
Obviously this happens quite often..nmSpunout
Mar 21, 2003 10:14 AM
This is so funny!Rich_Racer
Mar 21, 2003 10:52 AM
I don't have anything to add as it's all been covered (especially in Doug's list) but thank you all for a very amusing friday morning read!
I think you've got some issuesbcm119
Mar 21, 2003 10:35 AM
Common guys, you don't have to be insecure to get a little annoyed by unnannounced beer cooler helmets zooming by you when you're riding along at 13 mph on a recovery day. Don't you have a competitive bone in your body?
It's a joke, son.Mel Erickson
Mar 21, 2003 10:54 AM
I think I'm safe in calling you that. Competetive bone? Well, I used to hold a Cat 4 license (wooheeee) but that was years ago. I haven't done a road race in about 6-7 years but I still do a 40 mile XC mountain bike race every year, does that count? I'm planning on doing a 24 hour race with a team this year. Yeah, I may have one competetive bone left, but that's about it. Been there, done that, now I just ride because it's fun and it keeps me young (and those damn friends that keep beating me to the next telephone pole).
Group riders who point out everything on the road...thatsmybush
Mar 21, 2003 10:39 AM
Their hand must get tired waving about every little blade of grass that we happen by. This normally happens on the second group ride of the year(the first one is the one where they point out nothing at all and let you drive into a yawning crevasse)and are then told to point out small fissures like that out. This would refer to the new riders in any group.
Here's the list!triple shot espresso
Mar 21, 2003 10:51 AM
People you don't know that jump into your group ride without asking.
People that are ride really old bike that are in poor condition and try to pretend that they love and try to give you the "it's the rider not the bike" argument.
People mentioned above on old bikes that kick my butt.
People that don't pull through.
People that are not careful when they spit or snot in a paceline.
People that attack hard on every hill even though they have agreed to an "easy ride".
People that blindly follow Dubyah.
Stupid people.
Self-centered people.
People that don't follow through with what they say they will do.
People that don't wave.
People that don't let their knees do what they want.
People in cars that pass to close to me.
People in cars that don't pass and just sit behind me.
People that don't understand that there is a wide variety of talent, experience, dedication and goals in this sport.
People that don't respect people just out for a casual sunday ride on a Kmart bike.
People that ride in the middle of the road and don't watch for cars.
People that flip cars the bird.
People that blow through stop signs.
People in cars that tell me to ride the sidewalk.
People that ask me why the hell did they pay their tax money for the MUT if I'm going to ride the road.
People on MUTs that have their heads up their butts and don't realize it's a lot like a road with traffic and stuff.
Fat guys on nice bikes. I hope to be one soon but they still annoy me.
LOL. Great list. I have an additionKristin
Mar 21, 2003 11:03 AM
People in cars who sit at green lights too long so that I must unclip.
Another;look271
Mar 21, 2003 11:09 AM
People in cars who race to get in front of you and then make a right turn, causing you to slow down or stop. AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!
Yes, Yes, Yes!!! This is #1 for me! nmnoveread
Mar 21, 2003 11:56 AM
I had a short list, but I like your long list more nmPdxMark
Mar 21, 2003 11:12 AM
That is the short list. nmtriple shot espresso
Mar 21, 2003 12:08 PM
you forgot to mention...lonefrontranger
Mar 21, 2003 1:12 PM
That stinky hippie guy who blows by you going up the canyon wearing jeans and birks on a 25-year-old POS squeeky clapped-out Huffy with the handlebars turned upside down, wearing a 50-lb external frame backpack with skis strapped to the frame, with a case of Fat Tire bungeed to the rear rack.

Boys and girls this is no joke, it actually happened. I was in full kit riding my $4K roadie up Sunshine Canyon when this dude passed me like I was positively going backwards. I guess if you smoke enough weed, pain becomes merely theoretical?
My list;look271
Mar 21, 2003 11:06 AM
-The afore-mentioned no-nodders.
-anyone who can't hold a line in a paceline and/or maintain a constant speed
-anyone who will not stop or at least inquire about a cyclist in apparant distress
-guys/gals with sweet rigs who can't hold an average of over 15mph (petty, I know, but what a waste!-let the flames begin!)
re: too neuroticmapei boy
Mar 21, 2003 11:08 AM
Nothing annoys me. Everything amuses me.
people who get amused by everything.... nmSpunout
Mar 21, 2003 11:21 AM