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what/where to buy as medium-size seat bag ?(16 posts)

what/where to buy as medium-size seat bag ?PeterRider
Mar 20, 2003 1:28 PM
I need a bit more room than what my tiny bag has, without going as big as those Caradice where you can almost put a tent and a month worth of food ! :-)

I want to put 2 tubes, a multi-tool, a leatherman, a patch kit, a fiberfix spoke, a powerlink, a spoke wrench, one thermal top or 2 coolmax T-shirts, spare derailleur and brake cables, a few 35mm film canisters with gatorade and chamois butt'r. And my ID and money. What did I forget ?

Thanks !

Pierre
dude you better buy one of those bob trailers...Frith
Mar 20, 2003 1:35 PM
or hire a sherpa or something.
I mean an extra derailleur???
is this for a carry all commuter or something?... if so I suggest you do it right and get a rack.
Or maybe you should could get your own team car to follow you and haul all that gear ;)
not a derailleur but a derailleur cable... they break, sometimesPeterRider
Mar 20, 2003 2:01 PM
ah ok that makes a little more sense.Frith
Mar 20, 2003 2:28 PM
I suppose my question still stands...Is this for rec/training type rides, Or the daily haul to work or school?
For rec/training rides that's still quite a bit of stuff. Any bag you use is going to be anything but streamlined carrying that much stuff. You could consider the camelback or fanny pack route (I realize this doesn't really answer your question).
If for a more permanent commuting setup I would seriously consider a rack. Possibly one of those seatpost mounted ones if you are inside the weight limit.
As for larger wedge type packs my lack of experience allows me no further comment :)
If you look closer to my list...PeterRider
Mar 20, 2003 5:21 PM
the only item I mentioned that could look strange is the T-shirt. Apart from that and the leatherman, everything fits in my current small bag, it weighs 700g (and the multi-tool is very heavy). The emergency spoke and powerlink are around 5g for both and take no space, same for the spare cables ! And now I'm quite decided on taking along 2 tubes rather than one.

No, seriously, I just need about twice the size of a regular small bag.

Pierre
Just curious...what kind of multi tool do you have? (nm)jtferraro
Mar 21, 2003 10:12 AM
drop me an email and I'll send a pic.PeterRider
Mar 21, 2003 6:00 PM
don't have it here to take a pic. Bought it at target, it's very heavy but so practical, there is everything on it, even the chain tool. I'll remove some steel soon to make it lighter.

pierre dot moreels at jpl dot nasa dot gov.

Pierre
REI has a nice medium-sized bag for ~$15. But ...retro
Mar 20, 2003 2:26 PM
Can't remember the model, but REI has a bag that should hold that stuff for about 15 bucks. I have two of 'em (one was a gift), though I don't use them much anymore since I got the Carradice (I really did--I love that thing).
FWIW, though, that's a lot of stuff for just riding around. I've never broken a cable in 30 years.
If you want to cut down on the bulk (said the guy with the Carradice Lowsaddle Longflap), cables can go inside the handlebar or be pushed into the seat tube, and I imagine the Powerlink would fit, too. I dunno if you need a multi-tool, Leatherman AND a spoke wrench (all my multi-tools have spoke wrenches built in). Two tubes seems like overkill on an ordinary ride--why not just one and the patch kit? And while I take gatorade on long rides, I don't need it most days.
On the other hand, I have a Rivendell Hobo Bag on the bars in addition to the Carradice, so I may not be the best person to ask....
How do I mount the torque wrench under the top tube?SnowBlind
Mar 20, 2003 3:01 PM
I am packing the Silca, so I don't need a frame pump.

Seriously, my load out for cell-phone supported (<100 miles) ride is:
1. Tube.
2. Patch kit with boot.
3. Emergancy Clif bar.
4. Alien Multi.

For a century + I add:
5. Second tube.
6. Gatorade powder.
7. Extra Tire lever.
I run 3x/32/14g straight now, so I don't give too much thought to spare spokes.

What's in your wallet?
Two places.Andy M-S
Mar 20, 2003 7:44 PM
First, you could go the traditional route. A Carradice Junior (see 'em at www.wallbike.com) would certainly hold what you need.

Alternatively, if you want to go the "modern" route, there's JANDD (www.jandd.com) who make a nice big bag that hangs from the saddle and has a couple of elastic suspension straps to keep it steady.

OTOH, perhaps what you need is a handlebar bag...there's a lot of good to be said about those as well!
jandd, topeaktarwheel
Mar 21, 2003 4:54 AM
Both Jandd and Topeak make medium-sized bags that expand into larger bags as needed. I've got the Jandd bag and it will hold a lot of gear when zipped larger, but it's not too bulky when closed smaller. The Topeak bag is similar but comes with a quick release fastener -- which for some strange reason wouldn't fit the rails on a Selle Italia Flite, perhaps the most common saddle in use.
here's a pixtarwheel
Mar 21, 2003 4:57 AM
This is the Jandd expandable bag. Comes in other colors too -- black, grey, blue, red, etc.
topeak pixtarwheel
Mar 21, 2003 5:02 AM
Both bags have zippers along the bottom edge, that nearly double the volume of the bag when unzipped. These pictures are both of medium bags, and both brands also make large versions.
Ditto the Jandd medium bag (Mountain Wedge Expandable)Dale Brigham
Mar 21, 2003 9:22 AM
It's big enough for the essentials (tubes, multi-tool, patches, tire levers, etc), plus a folding tire and/or a rain jacket. That, plus three jam-packed jersey pockets, does the trick for me in brevets and randonees.

On a 600k brevet years ago, I tried the larger Jandd seat bag (Mountain Wedge III) with the elastic stabilizing straps mentioned above, and I found it to be unsatisfactory. The problem was that the elastic straps exert a downward force on the bag that tends to loosen the straps that fasten the bag to the saddle rails, allowing the bag to sway back and forth in an annoying manner (and, I can assure you, I get plenty annoyed at any little thing that is amiss in the middle of a 600k).

I had to eventually tie a knot in the loose ends of the straps to keep them from pulling through their buckles. I saw another guy who had the same problem with the straps on the same Jandd model (he ran big safety pins through the straps to keep them from pulling through the buckles), so it was not just me. Perhaps that problem has been rectified in the latest version of the bag. If that is indeed the case, it would be a very good choice for a medium-large seat bag. Just my 2 cents!

Dale
couple suggestionsJS Haiku Shop
Mar 21, 2003 6:45 AM
if you're wanting to shy away from the large carradice bag, there's the junior, as already mentioned in this thread. however, the junior might swallow the stuff you've listed, and ask for more. good/bad.

do(u)g sloan mentioned awhile back a seatpack that's long and spacious and intended to carry a tubular spare and tools. search the archive or check google for "tubular seatpack" or something. i think it was a tufo brand, but that's just a guess.

check www.rivendellbicycles.com, www.wallbike.com, and www.peterwhitecycles.com for other types and methods of carrying stuff. they each have different sized seatpacks and bags. the first might be your best bet (rivendell).

I use the carradice junior or carradice nelson longflap, combined with a bagman sport rack, for long self-supported rides, and carry what you do, plus more clothing and actual food.
Thx for the info guysPeterRider
Mar 21, 2003 12:54 PM