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Think this 30ci PI saddle bag can accomodate the following:(15 posts)

Think this 30ci PI saddle bag can accomodate the following:jtferraro
Mar 20, 2003 11:16 AM
Here's the saddle bag I'm considering purchasing:

http://www.pearlizumi.com/pearlizumi/site/catalog/product.aspx?iProductTypeSubID=23&iProductID=2460&iProductColorsTB=4464

Here's what I'm planning on putting in it (items I hopefully won't need during the ride):
1.) CO2 pump w/2 12oz(maybe 16oz cartridges). One cartridge will be in the pump handle already, so it won't be taking up more space. The maximum CO2 cartridges I'd carry would be 3.
2.) Crank Brothers Speedlever tire lever
3.) Crank Brothers Multi-17 multi tool
4.) Presta to Schraeder adapter
5.) Patch kit
6.) Tire boot - piece of material(like USPS kevlar envelope) for sidewall tire tears.
7.) spare tube - maybe 2

Items I'll carry in my jersey pockets (personal items, or items I'll probably need during my ride):
1.) maybe that small Crank Brothers Power Pump (prolly won't fit in saddle bag)
2.) maybe cell phone
3.) ID, medical insurance card, money
4.) food - bars, gels, fruit, etc.
5.) extra clothing - wind shell, arm warmers, etc.

Should I go w/a larger saddle bag or give this one a try? Thanks,

-Jeff
yepJS Haiku Shop
Mar 20, 2003 11:28 AM
in a 24 cubic-inch mini toolkit bag from jandd, i get the following:

1.) innovations second wind mini/co2 inflator
2.) 1 tire lever
3.) 2 12oz co2 carts
4.) spare 700x19-25 tube
5.) patch kit

and could easily fit a couple tire boots (old tires cut to square pieces)...and could also fit a p/s adapter.

with these 5 things i also carry a gel in the leg cuff of my shorts, and in jersey pockets: cellphone, id, cash, meds, arm/knee warmers, garage door opener.

if i were riding long/unsupported/away from home, i'd use a larger pack and carry what i thought i might need to get me back to the car/house.
by the wayJS Haiku Shop
Mar 20, 2003 11:29 AM
take the patch kit out of the box or container and put it into a small ziploc snack baggie (or other baggie you might have laying around, LOL). saves space and is more easily packed.
thanks for all the info & tips! (nm)jtferraro
Mar 20, 2003 12:27 PM
Have the same bag...Horace Greeley
Mar 20, 2003 11:30 AM
and I carry many of the same items. Only item I'm not sure about is your mini tool. In my PI tailgate bag I carry 3 CO2 cartridges (one in inflator), one spare tube, speedlever (great item, isn't it?), very small patch kit, some $$$ (for spending and/or boot), and a small cellphone. I don't carry a mini tool but have the cellphone, so maybe the mini tool will fit. On longer rides I put another spare tube between the saddle rails and under the bag. This works fine. All the items in the bag make a very tight squeeze, but it all fits. I really like the bag because of its size, it doesn't move around when riding or hit you, and it looks pretty good. I'm very happy w/it. If I need anything else, I either stuff my jersey or break out the larger seat wedge (which is hardly ever).
Cool, thanks for posting...jtferraro
Mar 20, 2003 11:59 AM
Hmm...you have your cell phone in your bag, but I'd have it, if at all, in my jersey pocket. You carry 3 CO2's but I think I'm going to try carrying just 2. What size CO2's do you carry, 12oz? NEway, I'm also going to carry the mini-tool and, for after work rides, the taillight. That probably takes up as much space as your cell phone, along w/the fact that I'm going to try to carry 2 CO2's.

On longer rides I think you mean that you put the extra tube between the saddle rails and ON TOP of the bag, right?

Yeah, it does look like the perfect sized bag, as I don't want anything too much larger. I like to travel light and "streamline". Right - it also is supposed to be very secure, stable, and hopefully, quiet on the bike - NICE! I especially like the reflective panel on the rear that doubles as a tailight mount.

Just curious, what kind of bag is your larger one? The larger one I was considering was a medium MountainSmith.

-Jeff
Cool, thanks for posting...Horace Greeley
Mar 20, 2003 12:09 PM
As far as CO2 cartridges go, I carry 2 16g cartridges and one 12g in the inflator. The 16g cartridges are so small and light, the can easily go in the jersey pocket too.

Yes... on longer rides a wedge another tube between the saddle rails ON TOP of the bag (I actually forget its there and usually leave it for weeks).

It is very secure and stable. Not sure whether the reflective strip doubles as a tailight mount (is that how it's described in the link?). For a tailight, my light has a quick mount to the seatpost which is pretty easy, although now that I have a carbon post I might think twice about using the clamp (it does have a ruber gasket on the inside).

My larger bag was an old Cannondale wedge (I think Comp II?). It's probably 65 cu. in. I generally travel light like you, so I didn't need all the room. I found the gels, bars, etc., were more accessible in my jersey pocket then having to stop and reach in the bag. I purchased the bag new on E-bay at a very nice price.
Oh,and I'll also prolly carry a tailight for after work rides nmjtferraro
Mar 20, 2003 11:32 AM
Pretty tightterry b
Mar 20, 2003 11:36 AM
I've got that bag on one of my bikes and it currently carries 2 tubes, a set of levers, a small patch kit and 4 CO2 cartridges. It is about as jammed as I can get it, and I'm being very creative in fitting that stuff in (tubes in the center, levers on top of those, 2 cartridges along each sides, patch kit crammed in the front.) No way it would fit my inflater or a multi-tool. Nice bag, but very snug.
Hmm...thanks for the reply...jtferraro
Mar 20, 2003 11:48 AM
I think I'm going to start out carrying 1 tube, since I'll have the patch kit for back-up. Is your patch kit glueless, or traditional? Also, if traditional, did you empty out the box into a plastic, ziploc bag to conserve space? Although, I'm sure you have. I also plan on carrying 2, *maybe* 3 CO2 cartridges. What size are yours, 12oz? Also, what kind of CO2 inflator? I have an Innovations and think it is about average size, as far as CO2 inflators go.

-Jeff
detailsterry b
Mar 20, 2003 1:14 PM
I continue to carry 2 tubes as I really don't like spending the 10 minutes to do a patch, even assuming I can find the hole. However, I live in the goathead capital of the universe and flats are very common for me. 2 tubes just makes it easier (although I've only had to use both of them on one occasion.)

The patch kit is a traditional little hinged plastic box. I could probably save a cc or so by taking it out, but then the patches get crumpled and the glue could leak and in general it would not save enough to make a difference so why take the risk?

I'm using 12 gram cartridges and given the shape of the PI bag, they snug in very nicely along the sides and are held stationary by the tubes. My inflator is a Innovations 2nd wind, which combines a mini-pump with the CO2 valve which while not any bigger than a standard inflator does prevent you from storing a cartridge in the handle.

The worst thing about the PI bag is the shape. Being long and narrow it makes it a bit harder to jam things in. I have other, more "cubic" shaped bags that hold the same amount of stuff but do not require all the creative stowing. Dropping one tube from the equation would certainly help, might mean you could put the inflator in there.
might be a tight fittarwheel
Mar 20, 2003 12:16 PM
Can you try it out at a bike shop? It can be tough fitting all that stuff in some seat bags. I use a Jandd Mountain Wedge bag, which is a little roomier than most. Jandd and Topeak also make some nice bags that aren't too big but can be expanded if necessary. The Pedro's bag is another option.
Might be able to try it out @my LBS...jtferraro
Mar 20, 2003 12:47 PM
but I don't think they have it in stock. I'm sure they can order it, though, since they are a PI dealer. I like the Jandd bags but the ones I saw didn't have the rear reflective panel. The one you posted does though - nice! I've looked at the Topeaks but didn't really care for them and the Pedros don't have the reflective panel. Basically, I'm looking for a simple, preferably black, bag.

Thanks - I'm going to check out Jannd's website now.

-Jeff
re: Pearlizumi bagtrout_bum
Mar 20, 2003 12:42 PM
I just got one has plenty of room for me.
Holds:
1 Tube
Ritchey CPR Tool
2 addl Allen wrenches(for bolts where the CPR is awkward to use-ie brake levers)
Patch Kit
3 tire Levers
Park Peanut Butter Wrench-for fixed gear bike
House Keys
Drivers License
Cash
...and there's still a tiny bit of room left-sometimes my keys/tools rattle around a bit.
Reflective loop can hold a vistalite too which is a nice feature.
Thanks - think I'm going to give it a try! =) (nm)jtferraro
Mar 20, 2003 12:50 PM