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Stem-Police . . . HEEELLLP(16 posts)

Stem-Police . . . <b>HEEELLLP</B>cyclinseth
Mar 18, 2003 10:27 AM
http://www.landsharkbicycles.com/Gallery/Hughes_Mary.htm

I'm not one to criticize another person's bike style. My feeling is as long as they're on a bike then they're not in a murder-vehicle, but I would think that someone with John's abilities would have found a better solution.
re: Stem-Police . . . &lt;b&gt;HEEELLLP&lt;/B&gt;jtolleson
Mar 18, 2003 10:38 AM
Dunno. Looks like a rider preference to me. The only reason that the quill stem appears jacked up so high is apparently because the rider prefers to be more upright; the bars are has high as the saddle.

My guess is that going up a frame size perhaps wouldn't be a good option because of reach (TT length).
doesn't bother metarwheel
Mar 18, 2003 12:16 PM
You would probably scream if you saw my bikes. I'm the original stem-meister, but I'm comfortable and that's what counts.
Looks very comfortable to me.Dave Hickey
Mar 18, 2003 10:41 AM
My stems keep getting higher and higher.
Don't see a problem here. Explain? nmOldEdScott
Mar 18, 2003 11:08 AM
my takelaffeaux
Mar 18, 2003 1:11 PM
I'm kind of with the original poster here. If you need a high rise stem, no problem use. Buy why have a long quill stem with what appears to be negative rise at the end? What's the point?
I think . . .RJF
Mar 18, 2003 11:35 AM
Let me preface this by saying I don't give a rat's ass how anyone sets their bike up.

But, the original post was likely prompted by the fact that all Landsharks are "full custom." and that perhaps some combination of headtube extension or sloping TT or whatever would be a better solution to bike fit than a mile of quill. Since it is full custom, you don't have to force-fit a person on a stock size. Of course, we don't know what the customer communicated to the builder. And, despite Landsharks making full custom bikes for no extra charge, we don't know if the frame was a pre-built spec frame bought off the floor somewhere. Maybe she just likes a lot of quill to giver her flexibility?

p.s. Follow the original link and click at the bottom to see her husband's bike. The "Center Seat Police" will surely howl about how his seat is rammed forward on the rails.
If Landsharks are full custom, how does one explain...Fez
Mar 18, 2003 11:46 AM
the beautiful selection of Landshark frames on Gary's gvhbikes website?

The landshark website also used to say dealer only and no web sales, so I was wondering how Gary got so many of these beauties.
Not mutually exclusiveRJF
Mar 18, 2003 12:12 PM
Like I said, I'm sure he builds some on spec. My local dealer has 5 or 6 Seven frames on the rack, even though Seven builds full custom for no up-charge. If I was a difficult fit, I'd certainly get the custom option since the price is the same.

GVH also says on its website that you can get a full custom Landshark for no extra charge -- you just have to wait. Since they are both Oregon guys, I bet Slawta makes an exception for GVH. He does speak glowingly about the bikes and says he is an authorized dealer. Man, they do have some nice paint jobs.
The customer is always right. Fit rules, I guess. nmSpunout
Mar 18, 2003 11:38 AM
There isn't anything wrong as long ..................MR_GRUMPY
Mar 18, 2003 11:38 AM
There isn't anything wrong with that "look", as long as you don't mind little kids and old ladies laughing at you, when you ride by.
Jeeeeez, why not get a "comfort bike".
Another perspective.Dave Hickey
Mar 18, 2003 12:01 PM
Although I don't totally agree with Rivendell, I do like my bars higher than I used to.

http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/html/rr_comfposition.html
Possible explanationsgeeker
Mar 18, 2003 12:51 PM
1) As another poster mentioned, maybe the frames were purchased stock, eg GVH.

2) Maybe it's a function of the Landshark dealer(s) who did the fitting, rather than John Slawta. John might only have received the numbers for frame specs.
No problem with quill length...Brooks
Mar 18, 2003 2:45 PM
as mine is at the minimum insertion point. I'm 6-1 on a 60cm bike with the seat and bars level. Just like a more upright ride. I am more interested to note the nose of the seat being turned up as much as it is. That could be uncomfortable.
My concern would be excessive stem flexTig
Mar 18, 2003 3:14 PM
An extra long 1" quill stem exposed like that sure would flex when you climb or sprint (I somehow doubt the lady is a sprinter). Perhaps some head tube extension or even a sloping top tube could have prevented this configuration.

Her husband's riser stem puts his bar up high as well, but looks a bit more sturdy. His frame looks way to small in the seat tube and head tube for a custom frame. I doubt they were fitted by a pro before ording, or perhaps the frames were productions and not custom.
also saddle position on...Fez
Mar 18, 2003 3:19 PM
the husband's bike. uses a ritchey post with the saddle pretty far fwd. a custom job would have chosen a post that could center the rails (non-setback) or if necessary, modified the seat angle.

maybe this was not a full custom job or some attention to detail was simply overlooked.