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WAR AND CYCLING!!!(46 posts)

Mar 17, 2003 4:43 PM
As we all know cycling is a public sport. Riders don't really have any protection against the crowds. France doesn't want a war and if the USA goes to war I think it'll change the face of bicycle racing specially the Tour de France. What do you guys think on this matter. Prez Bush should bomb UPS instead.
re: WAR AND CYCLING!!!Rich_Racer
Mar 17, 2003 4:48 PM
Indeed - save the Tour de France - bomb the wHitehouse! (btw - for all the fbi agents reading this - that was a joke!)
re: WAR AND CYCLING!!!Akirasho
Mar 17, 2003 5:13 PM
(btw - for all the fbi agents reading this - that was a joke!)

... we're not the FBI... but we know who you are... and where you live... (play X-Files theme here)

Be the bike.
all you base are ours ?????? NmSpirito
Mar 17, 2003 5:33 PM
all you base are ours ?????? NmSpirito
Mar 17, 2003 6:11 PM
That's "all your base are belong to us" nmBrooks
Mar 18, 2003 8:17 AM
When's everyone destroying their Mavic wheels in protest? nmczardonic
Mar 17, 2003 4:56 PM
killin' mine one mile at a time ... slow and painful death. nm12x23
Mar 17, 2003 6:00 PM
D'ya think McDonald's will stop calling their fries French?Spirito
Mar 17, 2003 6:07 PM
... course not.

i will focus on buying french goods whenever i can 'coz there are idiots out there who will shun them.

in times like these the world needs to ride bikes more.

Buck Fush !!! we need Cicciolina - she is the only politician that has ever made any sense to me ....

""In 1979, on the strength of my fame and my provocative stance, I was elected the leading candidate of the "Lista del Sole", Italy's first green party. After joining the "Partito Radicale" in 1985 I also used public appearances to campaign against nucear energy, for human rights, and against starvation anywhere in the world. These appearances prompted the public prosecutor to bring charges against me, but that didn't stop my supporters giving me their votes.The Cicciolina's whirlwind was unstoppable now.

In 1987 I polled 20,000 votes in my constituency of Lazio (Rome) and so became a member of parliament. I was the first porn star to enter politics! My political aims are simple ones: I am for a safe future without nuclear energy, for absolute sexual freedom, for the right to sex in prisons, against the death penalty, against all forms of violence, and for the decriminalization of drugs.

I am against censorship of any kind, in favour of sex education in schools, and for objective information about AIDS. And all this without losing sight of Love! I proposed also an ecological car tax to reduce the damages of smog and to realize works for the defence of nature.""

its been said before - make love, not war. to update the cool vibe of the now viewed as cliched message im passing on my modernist view of the international symbol for peace.

peace in the middle east y'all

and what about French kisses??cyclopathic
Mar 18, 2003 6:53 AM
she is a doll
and hutchinson tiresctisevn
Mar 17, 2003 6:10 PM
Ive got both. Ill be buying more at the earliest convenience too. I now buy french if at all possible.
...all your ksyriums are belong to us.... nmSpunout
Mar 18, 2003 5:05 AM
re: WAR AND CYCLING!!!toomanybikes
Mar 17, 2003 5:34 PM
"France has neither winter nor summer nor morals. Apart from these drawbacks it is a fine country. France has usually been governed by prostitutes." ---Mark Twain

"I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
---- Hannibal Lecter

While speaking to the Hoover Institution today, Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was asked this question:
"Could you tell us why to date at least the Administration doesn't favor direct talks with the North Korean government? After all, we're talking with the French."
The Secretary smiled and replied:
"I'm not going there!"

"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me."
--- General George S. Patton

"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion."
--Norman Schwartzkopf

"We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it."
---- Marge Simpson

"As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure"
---Jacques Chirac, President of France
"As far as France is concerned, you're right."
---Rush Limbaugh,

"The only time France wants us to go to war is when the German Army is sitting in Paris sipping coffee."
--- Regis Philbin

There was a Frenchman, an Englishman and Claudia Schiffer sitting together in a carriage in a train going through Provence. Suddenly the train went through a tunnel and as it was an old style train, there were no lights in the carriages and it went completely dark. Then there was a kissing noise and the sound of a really loud slap. When the train came out of the tunnel, Claudia Schiffer and the Englishman were sitting as if nothing had happened and the Frenchman had his hand against his face as if he had been slapped there. The Frenchman was thinking: 'The English fella must have kissed Claudia Schiffer and she missed him and slapped me instead.' Claudia Schiffer was thinking: 'The French fella must have tried to kiss me and actually kissed the Englishman and got slapped for it.' And the Englishman was thinking: 'This is great. The next time the train goes through a tunnel I'll make another kissing noise and slap that French bastard again.'

"The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better, on average, than the citizens of Baltimore. True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee, but why this is more stylish than sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know."
--- P.J O'Rourke (1989)

Next time there's a war in Europe, the loser has to keep France.

An old saying:
Raise your right hand if you like the French....
Raise both hands if you are French.

"You know, the French remind me a little bit of an aging actress of the 1940s who was still trying to dine out on her looks but doesn't have the face for it."
---John McCain, U.S. Senator from Arizona

"You know why the French don't want to bomb Saddam Hussein? Because he hates America, he loves mistresses and wears a beret. He is French, people."
--Conan O'Brien

"I don't know why people are surprised that France won't help us get Saddam out of Iraq. After all, France wouldn't help us get the Germans out of France!"
---Jay Leno

"The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into Paris under a German flag."
--David Letterman

"Runaway" by Del Shannon,
"Walk Right In" by the Rooftop Singers,
"Everybody's Somebody's" Fool by Connie Francis,
"Running Scared" by Roy Orbison,
"I Really Don't Want to Know" by Tommy Edwards,
"Surrender" by Elvis Presley,
"Save It For Me" by The Four Seasons,
"Live and Let Die" by Wings,
"I'm Leaving It All Up To You" by Donny and Marie Osmond,
"What a Fool Believes" by the Doobie Brothers,
"Don't Worry, Be Happy" by Bobby McFerrin
"Raise Your Hands" by Jon Bon Jovi

How many Frenchmen does it tak
toomanyjokes . . . nmseyboro
Mar 17, 2003 5:51 PM
re: WAR AND CYCLING!!!desmo
Mar 17, 2003 6:23 PM
From last weekend's Sat. Night Live Weekend Update regarding the re-naming of Fench fries "Freedom fries". The French will now be referring to American cheese as "idiot cheese".
re: WAR AND CYCLING!!!Sharkman
Mar 17, 2003 6:27 PM
Absolutely a great post.
re: WAR AND CYCLING!!!Spoiler
Mar 17, 2003 7:17 PM
It's nice to support his post with words, but you really should back it up by smoking his pole.
re: WAR AND CYCLING!!! Thanks made my day! LMAO.nmMrDan
Mar 18, 2003 1:41 PM
Mar 17, 2003 6:11 PM
Too much racism and generalisation.

The French government is representing how it's people feel, unlike the UK government.

If you took a poll I'm sure more countries would have something against the US than against the French
re: WAR AND CYCLING!!!purplepaul
Mar 17, 2003 7:47 PM
Not according to my European friends who, BTW, are against the war. Everybody hates the French. It's what they're good at: being hated.

But I won't buy Mavic because they're French, or Hutchinson tires because they suck and they're French. France's loss is Italy's gain (Hello Campagnolo).

My favorite neighborhood restaurant is French, and I still go there. But now I throw it up when I get home.

Just kidding.
Be glad you don't work for themhycobob
Mar 17, 2003 9:07 PM
I should know, their company view is that if its French it works fine. We had more problems getting this place running than you can imagine. There were lots of great products made here in the US that would have worked the first time...but they had to use theirs. Now we've been up for 5 years and the French pieces still don't work!

BTW they do stink. You would think the country known for romance would have heard of anti-perspirant.
there's an intelligent it for third grade nmDjudd
Mar 17, 2003 9:24 PM
USA = UNITED STATES of ARABIA Take it over.nmthe bull
Mar 17, 2003 7:13 PM
I don't understand what the french did wrong.Frith
Mar 17, 2003 8:05 PM
They spoke out against a war and thus represented the feelings of the majority of the people on this earth.
They threatened to make America go to war without the support of the UN. They took away any veiled justification for an act that is in the opinion of the international comunity is, just that, unjustifiable.
People have thier views. Bush's differs from most of the world so how did France cause this?
As for the tour...It will roll on with or without the support of America or any other non-European country.
I sincerely hope it doesn't come to that. I would hate to see a lanceless tour any time soon.
I don't understand what the french did wrong.purplepaul
Mar 17, 2003 8:59 PM
If that's what they did, there would be nothing wrong.

Instead, what France, Russia and Germany did was pull their support for US policy claiming it was for humanitarian reasons when in fact it was for economic and political reasons. The economic reasons are: fear of losing lucrative business contracts, fear of losing any chance of loan repayment, fear of losing control of Iraqi oil fields.

The political reasons are: we were rude to them by pointing out how irrelevant they are and, more importantly, they fear our power.

France actually said it opposed the war because it feared for the safety of our troops.

So, it is an unprincipled, unscrupulous, unnecessary little country that aspires to world relevance (some would say dominance). And it hopes to gain that importance by uniting as many countries against the US as it can, however it can, all the while claiming to be more moral, more caring, more just. Many believe it was France's opposition to enforcing sanctions for the past 12 years that got us to where we are now.

With friends like the French...
You do sound like crazy preacher. nmcastrello
Mar 18, 2003 3:34 AM
The only difference is that he's right on the money...Matno
Mar 18, 2003 3:43 AM
The French never cease to amaze me with their constant lack of anything remotely resembling morality. How can an entire people be devoid of a conscience? How can an entire society be devoid of masculinity for that matter? It's mind boggling, but then, they've been like that for a long time. To quote one of my favorite musicians, Alan Sherman, on the subject of Louis the 16th: "What else could you expect from a king in silk stockings and pink satin pants?"
nothing...dared to point out war is not necessary...Djudd
Mar 17, 2003 9:01 PM
the president just gave someone 48 hours to get out of town...what the hell is that? He is itching for a fight and wiull not be stopped, even by common sense
nothing...dared to point out war is not necessary...purplepaul
Mar 17, 2003 9:24 PM
Well Djudd, if you're so fond of him, maybe Saddam can stay at your place.
hmmm looking at my post I do not see where I said...Djudd
Mar 17, 2003 9:28 PM
I was fond of Hussein.
hmmm looking at my post I do not see where I said...purplepaul
Mar 17, 2003 9:30 PM
Sure sounded like a sympathy card to me.
Just because you´re against the war...castrello
Mar 18, 2003 3:36 AM
...doesn´t mean you´re pro-saddam.
hmmm looking at my post I do not see where I said...purplepaul
Mar 18, 2003 9:14 AM
Sure sounded like a sympathy card to me.
<double yawn>...philippec
Mar 18, 2003 4:01 AM
I haven't heard this much drivel since fourth grade.

The TDF will go on, Lance will probably win and the vast majority of the spectators on the roads will cheer him on ... like every time. I know, I have been there for many more years than OLN/ESPN have been rebroadcasting this event back to the states.

The French government has some problems with the US position in this matter. They are in line with what the french voters believe. Those views are also in line with the position of UK, German, Spanish, Italian, Belgian, etc voters. Interestingly enough, those views are also in line with many voters in the USA. I suggest that those who have a problem with France start putting up the barbed wire for the "re-education" camps that will be necesary for those who dare to think differently (what is it 15-20% of americans who think this way...set up up in Oregon and make sure they don't contaminate the rest of the population). So much for the ideals of free thinking and free speech....

France has said that that it opposes war at this time b/c of humanitarian reasons. It doesn't feel that war is the solution yet. Others have pointed out that France has substantial commercial interests tied up in Iraq and this is the reason for its foot-dragging on the issue. The truth lies between the two, yes they have money tied up and yes they have some humanitarian concerns about the war...but please, please, please do not try to pretend that the US is only going in to liberate the country from a horrible dictator. Haliberton, Bechtel and all the other US firms who have signed contracts for reconstruction/oil extraction show that the US is no different than the Russians, Germans, French and British in this respect. Iraq has always meant a lot of money.. and the US will profit from the post-war just as surely (and perhaps even a great bit more) than the others did before the war. In geopolitics idealism=5%, realism=95%.

Now, back to cycling ;)

Yours truly from Paris

Thank you for some rationality. nmLen J
Mar 18, 2003 4:10 AM
Canada has a similar view of the USA, Bush=Idiot.Spunout
Mar 18, 2003 5:12 AM
I can't believe that he can be taken seriously. We laugh at the narrow minded jingoism coming from the south, unfortunately the people populating the USA believe it with fervor.

Sorta like cheering for professional wrestling, people have forgotten that it is a big farce.
Canada has a similar view of the USA, Bush=Idiot.ParticleMan
Mar 18, 2003 7:00 AM
As an Asian living in a very cosmoplitan country [Singapore] I fully agree with you. Here we are riding with a black armband to protest the war and loss of innocent lives - both Iraqi and poor Americans.
Spunout you're out of control Bush is not Idiot.cyclopathic
Mar 18, 2003 7:27 AM
he is a quack and this needs to be taken seriously
Canada has a similar view of the USA, Bush=Idiot.purplepaul
Mar 18, 2003 9:30 AM
There you go again, acting like non-Americans have some claim to all the wisdom in the world. So, let's assume that you all know better than we stupid Americans. Why aren't you the leaders of the world?

Talk about a confederacy of dunces.
Not wisdom, but rationality. BTW, Conf. o'Dunces great book! nmSpunout
Mar 18, 2003 10:00 AM
Clarification: Only a select few. Most I've met are quite nice.Spunout
Mar 18, 2003 10:02 AM
And, if the wise are surrounded by the 'Confederacy of Dunces', then Bush is surrounded by supreme genius?
Clarification: Only a select few. Most I've met are quite nice.purplepaul
Mar 18, 2003 10:27 AM
It may surprise you to know that quite a few Americans consider Bush to be a buffoon. I hated Reagan. But the fact remains that he stood up to the Russians until they collapsed. Made me realize that a leader can be an idiot and still do good things.
What has Canada ever contributed to the World?Live Steam
Mar 18, 2003 1:07 PM
I'll give you Hockey - Rangers season ticket holder here :O), but what have you done for the good of the World or for yourselves for that matter? Your economy sucks, your health care sucks and you have the highest rate of alcohol and substance abuse in the Western Hemisphere. Your country is divided in half. Western Canada and Eastern Canada hate each other. Eastern Canada is full of French who wnat the national language to be French. They want most of your tax dollars to go for projects in Eastern Canada, though most of the revenue comes from Western Canada. Canada is one messed up place and you want to berate the US of A? That's OK we will protect you too and won't ask a thin US dime for it! Thats 14 cents Canadian you know :O)
Strange Brew? -nmSnowBlind
Mar 18, 2003 1:18 PM
OK, two things -nmLive Steam
Mar 18, 2003 1:28 PM
Free thinking ... is not necessarilyMrDan
Mar 18, 2003 1:46 PM
good thinking...