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$200 to get a Ultegra triple vs. double? too much?(11 posts)

$200 to get a Ultegra triple vs. double? too much?jrescpa
Mar 16, 2003 8:46 PM
Picked my bike out at Supergo today. Scattante R853 steel for $1,099 with full Ultegra. Comes with 9 speed and they want $200 to trade up to a triple. They'll put on a 27t for free instead of the stock 25t. Seems like $200 is a rip. I'm 155 lbs and I like to climb. I've been using a 15 yr old 12 speed 25 lb Schwinn and I've done 4,000 ft climbs no problem so I don't need it. Issue is ability to spin rather than grind uphill and save wear and tear on my knees. What say ye experts? Other than that the bike looks and rides great.
Normally a $30-$40 upgrade for most mfg.JS
Mar 16, 2003 9:31 PM
$200 sounds a little like price gouging knowing most people looking at that particular bike will want the triple. Kinda negates the great deal.
re: $200 to get a Ultegra triple vs. double? too much? - nope..MrDan
Mar 16, 2003 9:45 PM
Not really a rip ... BB,Crank,(Shifter?),long cage derailer,
all change plus labor... so if you want it ya gots to pay for it...
WAY too much...Matno
Mar 17, 2003 2:41 AM
The only thing they're charging you for is the labor. They won't lose one penny off of the parts they switch, which will just go on another bike that they sell. (Heck, they'll probably charge some other guy $200 to switch his triple to a double!) Personally, I think a 39/27 combo is plenty of climbing ability unless you're touring with gear. I rode a 42/26 lowest gear for 10 years in the Rocky Mountains, and the only time it wasn't low enough was after I had bonked hard. (I'm a 140 lb spinner).
Not necessarily,TJeanloz
Mar 17, 2003 8:34 AM
Inventory management being what it is, think abou this as a possible scenario:

Supergo has a bunch of these frames that they normally sell with a triple for $1300. They also have a glut of Ultegra double groups that they accumulated as they changed customers over from doubles to triples. They conclude that to move the parts (because you almost never sell one-off Ultegra parts), they'll put them on a frame, take no profit on the parts, and mark the package at $1000. Then you ask them to put a triple on, and they say it's $300 to do that- which seems ridiculous, but its the delta between what they currently value a double at vs. what they value a triple at. The shop has its own set of supply and demand, independent of the world market for goods.
ECON 10153T
Mar 17, 2003 10:02 AM
In an efficient market, a shop that values its products at 10 times the world market will not be sucsessful in the long run.
Market inefficiencies...TJeanloz
Mar 17, 2003 10:34 AM
It's true that a shop that values its product too highly will not be successful in the long run. But if the value of the triple reflects the market value, while the value of the double reflects a substantial discount to market value, the shop may well be competitive.
They must love you at the shop (nm)53T
Mar 17, 2003 6:17 AM
Put on the 12-27, with 5lbs. lighter and a 27 no problemo nmbigrider
Mar 17, 2003 6:24 AM
re: $200 to get a Ultegra triple vs. double? too much?jrescpa
Mar 17, 2003 9:36 AM
Thanks. I'll get the double and put the $200 toward a good pair of shoes and pedals. Too bad my link to the picture didn't work. Jon
10 bucks!!!!!!!!!!the bull
Mar 17, 2003 4:47 PM
bike kit in colorado cyclist is 10 dollars difference!
tiple being more