|How do you carry it all?||Captain Kona|
Mar 16, 2003 7:22 PM
|I'm a mountain biker, and carry my spare tubes, pump, tools, house keys and snacks in a camelbak.
I plan on getting a road bike, and was just wondering how you carry the essentials with you. I understand powerbars will fit in a jersey pocket...but it seems to me that you'd need a fair sized saddle bag to carry it all. A frame pump, in my opinion, kills the look of a bike (although I understand that it's practical).
A dumb question I know, so please enlighten me with your knowledge.
|Some of us use Camelbacks ...||Humma Hah|
Mar 16, 2003 7:33 PM
|... I personally have a Vaude backpack that has a bladder pocket for a 2-liter hydration pack. I can't carry the kitchen sink, but do often carry 10-lbs of gratuitous junk on longer self-supported rides. For shorter rides, I revert to a fanny pack and water bottle.
Most roadies are consumate weight-weenies, and try to carry as little as possible. A ten dollar bill and a small cell phone are all many carry -- WHEN THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT. They usually go for water bottles instead of a CB, but that assumes they can find sustenance along their route.
Send a roadie across a long stretch of nowhere, with no 7-11, SAG stops, etc, and they'll suddenly dig out a CB and maybe a set of panniers for the bike.
The Camelback is perfectly acceptable ... might keep you from sweating away as much heat on your back, but if it keeps you better hydrated, that's righteous. Once you have that on, carry what you like in it.
|I have a big a$$ saddle bag. (Well, its not the biggest one on RBR)||Kristin|
Mar 16, 2003 7:35 PM
|But I've had to endure some jokes. Personally, I hate having lots of stuff in my jersey, and my butt looks big enough already. ;-) So I bought a wedge seat bag (fitst under the back of the seat). In it I carry:
4 full carts (I'm paranoid and have the room)
4 empty carts (Saving for spring cleaning)
1-2 tubes (depending on distance)
Then I carry food, drivers liscense, credit cards, med cards in my jersey pockets. I used to carry my cash in my jersey too, but the 7-11 guys kept getting grossed out when I handed them soggy money.
I've encountered several weight weenies who carry a CO2 pump, one cartridge and a tool in their jersey and then attach the replacement tube to the back of their seat post with a large rubber band. No bags. Personally, I don't want to land on my keys/pump/tool if I crash.
|:) :) :)||JS Haiku Shop|
Mar 17, 2003 6:03 AM
|yesterday i carried two 32 oz bottles on the bike, wore a 50-ounce camelbak aerobak, carried a gel, some strawberry newtons, and cleat covers in jersey pockets, and used a carradice nelson longflap mounted on a saddle rail-mounted rack. the nelson contained the following:
co2 pump/hand pump
cash, id, other cards
full 24 ounce bottle (gatorade)
brake & derailleur cable (1 each)
a length of chain
some other stuff i can't remember
including front & rear lights and fenders, plus those over-the-top heavy clothes pins used to hold a map on cable housing, the whole rig weighed in at about 43 pounds (no spare tire or heavy wool clothes). after the commute, group ride, and commute home, i ended up with 100 miles + change at about 17.5 mph (rode the group ride portion with "the pack". only had to refill bottles once, and that was in a gas station women's bathroom (i'm a guy, but the men's bathroom was occupied).
it's not about the bike. or the bag. :)
Mar 17, 2003 6:44 AM
17.5 MPH average
Some big friggin' legs. You go Ku!
|gosh, it was all flat with a tailwind and new asphault! nm||JS Haiku Shop|
Mar 17, 2003 6:55 AM
|re: some other stuff i can't remember||cyclopathic|
Mar 17, 2003 6:55 AM
|that's the key. ;)|
|re: How do you carry it all?||jtolleson|
Mar 16, 2003 8:15 PM
|You'd be amazed what fits in a saddle bag. I have a tiny saddlebag but it fits a tube, two irons, a patch kit, and a chain tool. I have a frame-mounted pump under the top tube, and then use water bottles in cages.
The only time I need the Camelbak is for cold weather riding where I need to carry a jacket and tights, etc. or if it is a long ride without reliable water refill options.
|I keep it simple....||DINOSAUR|
Mar 16, 2003 8:30 PM
|The main thing I worry about is the dreaded "f" thing. In my seat bag I pack- one spare tube, 6 Park glueless patches, 2 tire irons, 3 12g CO2 cartridges, 1 piece of an old tube for a tire boot.
In my jersey pockets I stash CO2 loaded with 1 cartridge, 3 hex wrenches, a spoke wrench, energy bar, cell phone, a folded up paper shop towel, drivers license for I.D. plus dog tags around my neck.
I carry a small Torelli mini frame pump to get enough air into my tube to mount the tire on the rim and for a back-up.
If I am doing a lot of riding in the summer I'll make an emergency kit consisting of a spare tube, tire irons, CO2 and put all this stuff in a zip lock bag and pack it in my jersey pocket (plus the spare tube in the seat bag). This makes changing a flat real fast.
This might be over-kill, but this stuff adds up to almost nothing and Murphy's Law says it's better to pack too much stuff than not enough as the day you don't carry something, that's the day you will need it.
You have to play it by ear then after time do away with the stuff you never need. A lot of it boils down to where you ride and availbility to phones if something happens and if you have someone to call.......
|re: How do you carry it all?||peter1|
Mar 16, 2003 8:52 PM
|As a recent mtb convert (moved to city from country), here's what I've been carrying, and how I carry it: |
Short rides (less than 1.5 hours): 1 extra tube, patch kit, compact pump, multitool all in jersey pockets. I can get about 80 psi into tires w'/pump, enought to get home. One or two water bottles on frame. GU,, keys, money in other pockets. Thinking about poaching my wife's wedge seatbag, altho I hate the look (same for frame pumbs).
Long rides: Camelbak, baby! All the above, a second tube, plus credit card, real food, and maybe cell phone if I might need to call home.
I don't care for frame pumps, but in the long run they're more useful than a compact pump and cheaper than CO2. I've got a pump peg so maybe this summer I'll get one. I've noticed that I get a lot more flats in NYC than in Central Jersey...
Funny thing is, though, I always forget something but it hasn't yet come back to haunt me. Knock on wood...
|re: How do you carry it all?||rogue_CT1|
Mar 16, 2003 10:37 PM
|I have about the smallest saddle bag they make and it carries: 1 tube
2 CO2 cartridges
2 tire levers
Assortment of allen wrenches
6 Parks tube patches
Then I carry an extra tube in my jersey pocket along with a CO2 mini pump, cell phone, 3-4 GU packages, banana and a granola bar.
Mar 17, 2003 4:34 AM
|I use a miniature bag (approx 1 inch high, 5 long, 3 wide).
I have a military type ID dog tag with contact/emergency info, a spare tube, a tire repair kit, 3 carbon levers, car keys, and a $20 bill. I have a Silca compact pump that has a bracket that goes under a water bottle cage. One or two power bars in the jersey pockets. Over time I have moved towards smaller and smaller saddle bags.....
|Thanks all||Captain Kona|
Mar 17, 2003 5:06 AM
|Thanks everyone for your input.
I always thought that in "Roadie World" wearing a camelbak was a bad as being seen with hairy legs and baggy shorts.
Learn something every day!
Thanks again roadies.
|re: camelbak and roadies||cyclopathic|
Mar 17, 2003 6:50 AM
|you might consider dropping Cbak during summer. Riding w/o one makes things alot cooler and you can fit as much stuff in jersey pockets and small saddle bag.|
Mar 17, 2003 6:35 AM
|I've got a fairly small saddle bag, but it'll accomodate a couple of tubes, a couple of patches, a couple of CO2 cartridges, a mini-tool, and, with some finessing, my very small cell phone. If I were doing a longish solo ride in the country I'd bring a frame pump too--better safe than sorry. Power bars or gu can go in the jersey pocket. Plus, I mostly ride in Virginia, so there's a 7-11 every hundred yards or so.|
|small saddlebag and jersey pockets||ColnagoFE|
Mar 17, 2003 7:19 AM
|In my saddlebag are 3 co2 carts...a c02 pump, a park mini toolkit (levers, patch kit, multi-wrench, chain tool, spoke wrench, and a coupla quarters) and spare tube. Should be all I need for most rides. If it's cold I can stow my leg and arm warmers in my jersey along with food and maybe a cell phone.|
|mostly agree, except for long hot rides||lonefrontranger|
Mar 17, 2003 9:32 AM
|I will use my Camelbak on long, unsupported hot road rides or races. I could give a flying frig what I look like.
Now that I have a bike with 2 bottle mounts, I don't carry the Camelbak quite as often as I used to. I bought some nice extra-big Campagnolo bottles on Ebay (see link): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2715944560&category=7295 ). They hold 28 oz apiece, the color scheme matches all my bikes and they say Campagnolo on them, what more could one ask? ;-) They're really good quality bottles, too - no plastic smell, no leaks, wide enough mouth for ice cube insertion, seemingly indestructable (even in 20* weather) and they have a good shape that's easy to grab and easy to reinsert into cages at speed. The eBay store is great to deal with as well.
My 4-5 hour ride package is generally these 2 large bottles, one Gatorade, one plain water, a minimalist seat bag that holds 2 cartriges, 1 iron, an inflator, mini tool and tube, then my back pockets variously hold 1-2 more tubes and a patch kit, 2 more cartridges, my cell phone, tiny slimline wallet with cash, check card & ID, eye drops (contact lens wearer), 2-3 Clif bars and several Clif Shots. I can fit my windshell in the middle pocket with the tubes & cartridges. Any spare layer stuff that gets removed usually gets stuffed under the back of my jersey where the elastic keeps it in place. This is a Colorado roadie trick I've learned from my ride buddies. On spring canyon climbs, we tend to look like we've got small children stuffed under the backs of our jerseys. I don't guess it's any more efficient than using a Camelbak but it keeps the team's sponsors visible, for what that's worth :-) The key is finding jerseys with large, stout pockets. I will often double stitch the seams on ones that look a tad wimpy.
|re: How do you carry it all? EASY!||Live Steam|
Mar 17, 2003 8:00 AM
|Ever wonder what those rear pockets on your jersey are for? Unless riding solo for long miles in a relatively commercial free area, one needs not overburden themself with too much. One spare tube, a mini pack of self adhesive patches, mini pump or CO2 (1-2 cartridges)(I use CO2),Schraider adapter (just in case :O), Topek multitool (has two levers, various sized Allen wrenches), two full bottles (one with H2O and one with sport drink), 1-2 energy bars,bandana (to wipe perspiration, ect. :O), cell phone and small sport wallet. This gets me through 40 - 50 mile ride in Spring conditions. More fluid in hotter weather is required. I also carry gel packs on longer rides.
I don't use a saddle pack any more. Jersey pockets hold everything with no problem or discomfort. The multi tool, CO2+cartridges and patches go into a little packet to consolidate them and keep them from jiggling around. One pocket has this packet and the spare tube. Second pocket has cell phone, bandana and wallet. The third pocket has food stuff. If rain looks like it may be in the forecast, I may use a small saddle pack for a rain jacket. If you keep your bike tuned and look everything over after/before each ride, you will limit the posibility of a breakdown on the road. The tools that I cary are for simple adjustments and not neccessarilty repairs. I am usually fixing someone elses bike on the road that does not get much attention when not being ridden. Simple,easy and complete. IMO :O)
Mar 17, 2003 10:29 AM
|whoops, in road biking they're called 'domestiques'. ;-P
for mountain biking i carry everything in my camebak like you do.
for road i've got one of those micro saddlebags in which i carry: 1 spare tube, ID, $$, 2 CO2 cartridges, and a Park micro tool. everything else goes into my jersey pockets: gels/powerbar(s), CO2 inflater-thingy, keys, asthma inhaler, cell phone (if i'm riding alone), and any arm/leg warmers i strip off along the way.
the only thing i don't carry on the road that i have in my camelbak is a 1st aid kit.
|No patch kit ?||HouseMoney|
Mar 17, 2003 2:04 PM
|Last weekend I was about 10 miles from home on a solo ride when I hit a pothole disguised as a puddle. Two pinch flats for the price of one! Fortunately, I had some speed patches to go along with the one spare tube I carried. Mounted a patch diagonally across both slits and it was enough to get me home.
Two spare tubes this past weekend, AND a patch kit.
|Prolly not different than everyone else||RoadnMtn|
Mar 17, 2003 10:56 AM
|I have a micro under-seat bag that I can get a couple of 12gram CO2's in, 1 spare tube, set of tire irons, small spoke wrench, and glued patches. That is always on the bike.
If I am riding for something like an organized century ride, with stops where you can get water...then I will usually have a small fanny pack with another tube (or 2), couple more co2's, minipump just to start a tube, a minitool, and whatever other nonsense I need (phone, etc). 1 water bottle on the bike...one in the jersey pocket along with Gu-shots or whatever food.
If I am going out on my own, and riding lots of miles away from possible help, the fanny pack is replaced by a CamelBak Rocket, with the stuff put in there....I guess it just depends on where you are riding and how far you are going for.