|Univega Gran Sprint Frames ???||lancer1558|
Mar 16, 2003 3:39 PM
|What is the quality of the Univega Gran Sprint frames made in the 1980s? Sheldon Brown gave good reviews on Univega frames.
Your input would be appreciated, I have one of these frames and plan on building up this frame or a 1990 Schwinn Paramount.
|re: Univega Gran Sprint Frames ???||Rusty Coggs|
Mar 16, 2003 5:11 PM
|Check for a tubing sticker.Double butted chromo is ok, and something like Tange Champion #2 is the rough comparable to columbus SL.BB threading is english,but the downside is that the HS is probably JIS with 27.0 crown race and 30.O cups that can be a bit hard to find as opposed the current standard iso with the 26.4/30.2. Not familar with that model,but the others I have run into were lugged and brazed and seemed ok,but nothing I would put alot of money into.If the tubing is something special,that might make a difference.If the Paramount is a Japaneese one, I would check the HS specs too.|
|re: Univega Gran Sprint Frames ???||lancer1558|
Mar 16, 2003 5:21 PM
|The Univega is triple butted chromo. This Univega was made by Miyata and Miyata made their own tubing.A Tange Headset came with the frame.
The Paramaount is made in the USA- Waterford, WI.
|A little history||OldEdScott|
Mar 17, 2003 6:12 AM
|I've had both -- Miyata and Univega -- and they're first-rate bikes. Made in Japan when Japan was turning out great bikes at unbeliveable prices. I think the Yen had crashed or something. You could get a thousand dollar bike for three hundred bucks.
I was doing a little research into the history of Univega/Miyata recently and came across this archived post from the iBOB list (by Peter White of Peter White Cycles):
I used to manage a shop in Lincoln MA that sold Univega bikes. Univega
wasn't a division of Miyata. But Univega, a Long Beach, California company,
contracted with Miyata to build most of their bikes. The frames were
virtually identical to Miyata frames, the main differences in the bikes
being componentry, and much of the componentry was the same. Miyata used a
bit more Shimano than Univega.
The folks at Univega claimed that they were the driving force behind
Miyata's frame designs, which in my opinion were as good or better than
anything else on the market. But Univega was first and foremost a group of
salesmen and I would have been surprised if they hadn't taken credit for
everything good coming from Miyata. That's not to say it wasn't true. I have
no way of knowing, since I don't remember seeing any Miyatas before Univega
The Super Strada was a phenomenal frame. When it came out, there was nothing
else for the money that was as fast and handled as well. It was also a great
looking bike. It had the teeniest little brakes from Dia Compe. They weren't
very good brakes but they looked great!
Peter Jon White
Peter White Cycles
666 Mass. Avenue
Acton, MA 01720
978 635 0969 Voice
978 929 9654 Fax
|A little history||Rusty Coggs|
Mar 17, 2003 10:18 AM
|Good and not so good.I have one with chromo main triangle and Hi-ten stays.There may have been worse,as i have seen some Univegas that looked real low end and were built with nutted axels.|
|Oh yeah, true.||OldEdScott|
Mar 17, 2003 11:53 AM
|I just meant at the level of performance bike we normally discuss here. They made some low-end stuff out of gaspipe, secondary brake levers, the low-end works. But they're easily recognizable. The Gran Sprint was a pretty nice bike. I thought my Sportour was the sweetest-riding bike I've ever been on.|| |