|How much should I ask for this frame?||jzinckgra|
Mar 16, 2003 12:06 PM
|Hey guys. I was reading a post below about suing UPS over damaging one guy's bike and it got me to thinking about my 99 Klein Q Race, which was also damaged by UPS. They paid to replace the frame and wheels (reluctantly), which I had insured, so I ended up getting a Klein Q Pro that summer as a replacement. Anyways, the damage to the Race frame is quite minimal. There is a gouge on the top tube, about 1-2mm deep and maybe an inch or so long. There are also a couple minor dents (small) on the downtube, one which has the paint chipped off. I did ride the bike for awhile until I got the Pro, then just put it away. Recently, I've also purchased a Calfee Tetra Pro, and wanted to get rid of the Race frameset. What would be a good asking price for this frame in the condition it is in? In addition to the damage, it probably has about 4K miles on it. I bought the frame for about $1200 at the time, so would $300 be too much? Thanks for any help. BTW, I thought about keeping it as a "rain bike", but decided I'd rebuild the Pro frame instead.|
|re: How much should I ask for this frame?||Akirasho|
Mar 16, 2003 1:14 PM
|... the problem will be in the the gouge and specifically, where it's at...
This is the bane of aluminium frames... depending on where damage occures... it can lead to catastrophic failure without warning. This does not mean that the frame is toast... mearly that if said damage is in a high stress area, the future owner could be looking at problems. Indeed, I've got an old Cannondale R2.8 frame with a nice nick out of the bottom side of the top tube... that I've ridden for years... but I keep a careful eye on said nick.
It's a tough call... aluminium is not as fragile as many posts might have one believe... but there are limits. If you do decide to sell (maybe $50 less than your asking) just make sure you point out all known damage to the potential buyer.
Be the bike.
Mar 16, 2003 1:59 PM
|1-2 mm is very deep for a gouge- it is doubtful the tube wall is even that thick. Are you sure it is that deep? Is it possible it is just through the paint? I can't imagine a gouge that deep that doesn't leave a dent.
On one hand, you received money for the frame and were allowed to keep the frame- selling it is just gravy.
You could just set a low opening bid, fully disclose the condition of the bike, provide large hi-res images, and let the mysteries of ebay's market forces dictate the price... you might be surprised- and the more brutally honest you are, the higher the bidding will go.
Mar 16, 2003 4:15 PM
|Well, yes, it is quite that deep, although I've never measured it. Trust me, I was pissed as all hell at UPS when I saw the damage. There is no dent where this gouge is. I don't know how they did it, but it must have been with a very sharp object, or maybe someone else's stuff from another box caused the damage. Who knows. I'm not trying to make $$$ on the deal. I just feel bad because it's just sitting around collecting dust. I doubt I'll build the bike up and ride it again because I already have two other bikes. I 'd rather see someone else use it, but not if the frame is potentially hazardous.|
Mar 16, 2003 5:15 PM
|Of course your trying to make money on it, that's why your selling it. What you get on e-bay on a no reserve auction is the absolute highest that it is worth, nowhere else will you get 40,000,000 registered idiots bidding on your frame. (no flames, I'm a registered idiot as well)
No matter the price, your prime objective will be met; someone else will be using it.
Mar 16, 2003 5:42 PM
|Point taken. I guess what I meant was that I am not trying to rip someone off. Anotherwords, I wouldn't ask like $700 bucks for the frame/fork.I think something like $250-300 is a fair price as long as the buyer knows what they are getting.|
|Where in the top tube?||Ian|
Mar 16, 2003 5:01 PM
|Filtersweep is right, the wall thickness will not even be 1-2mm in some areas. If it is near the head tube or seat tube, then it will be thicker, maybe around 3mm. But in the middle of the top tube, it is literally the thickness of a beer can, a millimeter at most.
|Where in the top tube?||jzinckgra|
Mar 16, 2003 5:44 PM
|Well, it is near the headtube, but if 3mm is pushing it, then I'd say the gouge, at its deepest is about 1.5mm.|| |