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Weyless from Supergo(7 posts)

Weyless from Supergobikerbob
Mar 14, 2003 8:18 AM
I'm in the process of buying parts for my 99'trek 5500 frame which didn't have a fork when I bought it. As I can't get the same color fork from Trek, I'm in a quandry as to what type of fork to get. Is it worth it to spend $350 on an Eastonv or Ouzo, or would the Weyless do the job at les than half the cost? I bought components from Supergo and was impressed with price and speed of delivery.

re: Weyless from Supergocdale02
Mar 14, 2003 8:41 AM
I don't have a perfect answer for you, however I can say that I really like me Reynolds Ouzo Pro. I like it so much that I was considering replacing the fork on my CAAD5 with one, but have deceided to stick with it.

The fork on the CAAD5 is a carbon fork with an aluminum steerer tube. Cannondale would not tell me the manufacturer, but some susbect it is Kineses. I suspect the ride/quality will be similar to the Weyless - but I do not know for sure. (I am assuming both are from Taiwan).
One option you could do is to look for a Reynolds on E-bay or classifies on this site. You can sometimes find new forks for a price comparable to the supergo.

Good luck - Enjoy the Trek!!!
Caad 5 fork...Matno
Mar 14, 2003 10:05 AM
Cannondale wouldn't tell you the manufacturer? Do you have some sort of unique prototype CAAD5 frame? My CAAD4 says "made by Time" right on the fork. I recently asked Cannondale about their Slice forks and this is what they told me: "The first year for Slice forks most were produced by Time, a few were produced by Kestrel. Since then everything is Time." If you have a CAAD5 with a "Slice" fork that has the "keyhole" shape (i.e. it bulges inward just below where the wheel's rim passes through) it is guaranteed to be made by Time (unless like I said, you have some sort of prototype or a non-Cannodale fork). Just an FYI.

Oh, and I personally wouldn't hesitate to go with Weyless parts in terms of quality. Supergo's rebranded stuff seems to be of more than acceptable build. However, since I don't know how the forks compare to others in terms of ride quality, I can't make a specific recommendation there.
Caad 5 fork...cdale02
Mar 14, 2003 11:41 AM
If you look at the forks last year's R700 (which is basically the same frameset that Cdale offered last spring that I purchased) and compare that to the R1000 and above, you will see that the higher forks read "Slice Prodigy SI, Time Manufactured" while the R700 and my frameset only reads "Slice Prodigy SI". "Time Manufactured" is noticeably absent.

The fork blades are basically the same shape on both forks (key hole), but slightly thicker on the lower model. My fork also has painted aluminum dropouts, while the higher fork has anodized aluminum ones.

I sent Cannondale an e-mail asking them who manufactured the fork and if there was any difference in ride quality between that and the "Time manufactured" Their response was that it was made by one of their suppliers to their standards and that they would highly doubt if I could be able to feel a difference. I was o.k. with that response and I like Cannondales. I put a question out on this forum and someone thought that it was made by Kinesis FWIW.

It's a good fork, don't get me wrong. As I said in my post above, I'm keeping it......unless an Ouzo pro Integrated falls in my lap.

Enjoy your Cannondale.
Mar 14, 2003 2:32 PM
At any rate, as far as I know, ALL of the Slice forks were designed by Cannondale no matter who made them. I doubt there is much difference between them, considering that Cannondale's quality standard has always been quite high. The Cannondale employee who answered my email also said that I might be able to feel the difference between my 1" steel steerer Slice fork and a newer all carbon one, but he doubted it and said it certainly wasn't worth the expense of upgrading just the fork. FWIW...
re: Weyless from SupergoNessism
Mar 14, 2003 9:33 AM
As you already know, Wayless is the store brand of Supergo. I think Supergo contracts different manufactuers depending on the part they want made.

My understanding is that the carbon forks, bars, ect?, are made by Advanced Composites - AC (not sure of the actual name/spelling), which is a Taiwan based company. They make private label parts for many different manufacuters and are ISO 9002 certified which means they have a high quality manufacturing operation. The most current version of the Wayless carbon fork (using a bonded aluminum crown) is identical to the current Litespeed branded fork sans paint differences.

The Wayless carbon forks come in a varity of configurations including aluminum or carbon steerer, integrated or regular steerer, ect. I receintly purchased a non-integrated, 1-1/8" carbon steerer model to install on a Litespeed Tuscany frame. The forks is fairly stiff and quite light - a fair bit lighter than most other aluminum crown models. Total price was only $100 which included a FSA expander plug - maybe AC makes FSA parts also?

One main reason I choose to use the Wayless fork is because the overall length is fairly short - 365 mm. Many carbon forks like the Reynolds Ozuo Pro and AME/True Temper AlphaQ forks are almost a full cm longer which will raise up the front end of your bike unless it was designed around the longer fork. Raising the front end will slacken the head/seat angles and RAISE the bottom bracket height - I hate high bottom bracket bikes.

Overall, I think it's hard to go wrong with the Wayless considering the price. The only down sides I can think of are snob appeal and maybe the stiff ride for ligher riders.

Good luck.

make sure the weyless is not heavy or has an aluminum steerer.CORONADO FLYER
Mar 14, 2003 9:18 PM
i think weyless is made by kinisis