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Calfee or Parlee?(26 posts)

Calfee or Parlee?Franchise
Mar 13, 2003 6:11 PM
I just finished up on a group ride, when one of by fellow team mates noticed my new Pegoretti. He is planning on ordering a new frameset before the season starts for us, and he asked,"What do you think? Calfee or Parlee?"

Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with either of these craftsmen(Craig Calfee or Bob Parlee), but I assume that he could not go wrong in either direction.

Does anyone own moveable works of art from either of these companies? If so, can you please give some feedback? The potential buyer is a tough sprinter and multisport athlete that loves to ride the legs off of everyone.

Thanks!
re: Calfee or Parlee?Traveller
Mar 13, 2003 7:35 PM
Both are great bikes. I am getting my Parlee hopefully in next couple of weeks. I will let you know my experiences with it. Tyler Hamilton rode the Parlee (under LOOK logo) last year in Giro and did quite well.
re: Calfee or Parlee?fab4
Mar 13, 2003 10:17 PM
Either way you can't loose. I hope your saving your $$$ because they are not cheap.
re: Calfee or Parlee?Franchise
Mar 14, 2003 5:15 AM
Not for me. A team mate of mine asked me for some feedback. I shop for closeout specials on 02's. That's how I got my Pegoretti this past January. With Record, and other extra light components(diacompe brakes, slr saddle, zipp 303's) my bike is almost the price of just the frame of his new ride. Calfees and Parlees are quite a bit of cash.
re: Calfee or Parlee?Live Steam
Mar 14, 2003 5:43 AM
Which Pegoretti frame do you have? I love their paint schemes and the nice detailing.
re: Calfee or Parlee?Franchise
Mar 14, 2003 6:05 AM
I just finished building up a Pegoretti CCKMP in Bice'. I love their paint schemes as well. I got this frameset with a fork painted to match for $1499 at competitivecyclist.com. Quite a steal considering retail is $2300.
re: Calfee or Parlee?Franchise
Mar 14, 2003 5:13 AM
Thanks! I didn't know that Tyler Hamilton rode one in competition. Does he still use it? If so, is it just for mountain stages?
costs, fit issuestarwheel
Mar 14, 2003 5:46 AM
Parlees are considerably more expensive than the lower-priced Calfee models. The higher priced Calfees may approach Parlees in cost, but include custom geometry in their prices. Although you can get custom frames from either builder, you can get modifications (like extended headtubes) from Calfee for a nominal cost. Parlees have very long top tubes in their standard geometry, so that also may be a factor. Personally, I think the Parlee frames are nicer looking (don't care for the "webbing" on Calfee frames), but for what they cost I would probably buy a Colnago C-40, which has a much better geometry and sizing for me. All of this is totally hypothetical, however, because I could never afford any of these frames unless I won the lottery, which is illegal in my state anyway.
costs, fit issuesFranchise
Mar 14, 2003 6:07 AM
Thanks for the feedback. Do you know if the "webbing" is cosmetic, or does it have a funntional purpose?
Calfee's "webbing" is structuraltorquer
Mar 14, 2003 7:23 AM
Technically, they are "gussets".

Def.:"A plate, usually triangular in shape, used to connect two or more members, or to add strength to a framework."-Dictionary of Architecture & Construction, Cyril M. Harris, Editor.

By stiffening the the connections between tubes, Calfee is able to use smaller diameter tubing (compared to Trek & Parlee, for example) without over-stressing the joints or compromising stiffness.
Calfee's "webbing" is structuralFranchise
Mar 14, 2003 7:33 AM
torquer,

Thanks for the information. So many times manufacturers claim innovations to be functional, and that is not the case. Thank you for the explanation. It makes sense. That the "gussets"(sorry about my ignorance pertaining to this subject) would allow the use of smaller diameter tubing. Thanks again!
Calfee's "webbing" is structuraltorquer
Mar 14, 2003 8:38 AM
Someone corrected me on that very point of terminology in another on-line forum; just passing it on.

Always happy to be able to contribute actual technical knowledge/experience. Its a necessary, if rare, break from the more common Campy/Shimano flamefests.

FWIW, I test-rode a Calfee before I replaced my OCLV; very impressed with the ride, but their standard sizing didn't work for me; if I had been in a position to pay for the custom sizing upgrade I would seriously consider one. As another poster suggested, all the Parlees are custom.
Calfee's "webbing" is structuralFranchise
Mar 14, 2003 9:14 AM
torquer,

which frameset did you test ride? Tetra, Luna, Dragonfly? Thanks!
Lunatorquer
Mar 14, 2003 10:32 AM
Don't know where you are located, but Bicycle World in Mount Kisco (Westchester Co., NY) was very helpfull; had a bike available for a 24 hour test ride TWICE!

I've also heard good things about other Calfee dealers; maybe they do check out LBSs before they give them a franchise (pure speculation on my part).
Hey TorquerHorace Greeley
Mar 14, 2003 12:37 PM
Are you from that area?
Hey Torquertorquer
Mar 14, 2003 1:39 PM
Southern Westchester, so Bicycle World isn't exactly my "L"BS, but I don't hang out at shops that much anymore.

High Caliper in White Plains supplies most of my needs. Gimbels ride supplies most of my racing. (That's me controlling the back of the peleton.)
re: Calfee or Parlee?zooog
Mar 14, 2003 2:36 AM
I have noticed that Parlee bikes have listed 2 new frames in his selections. With stock geometry I think the Calfree provides the most choices. I would order a Parlee today but his geometry just does not fit me and I cannot afford a custom. Either bike would be quality.
re: Calfee or Parlee?Franchise
Mar 14, 2003 5:17 AM
Zoog,

Thanks! I didn't know that Parlee made custom frames. I knew that Calfee did, though.
Ferrari or Lamborghini? (in other words...tough choice) -nmColnagoFE
Mar 14, 2003 6:38 AM
comparabletheeatkins
Mar 14, 2003 6:45 AM
Either one would be a good choice. I beleive the Calfee has a slight edge simply because of more bikes out there so is probably better equiped to handle any problems. Other than that, I would say, go with your gut feeling.
comparableGiant Joe
Mar 14, 2003 5:11 PM
I bought A used Calfee tetra A little of A year ago, while It was A nice ridding bike It was A little to small for me,I'll leave It at that.I would have to go custom If I get another Calfee because I'm built like A gorilla.
So I was going to try A Parlee for my next ride,but I got laid off from work :).So I bought something A little more affordable for now,maybe down the road I buy one.Parlee comes in either compact or standard geometry too.
Calfee comes with A 10 to 25 year warranty on frame,never did find out what the warranty was on A Parlee,anybody know?
Joe
comparableFranchise
Mar 14, 2003 5:30 PM
Joe,

Sorry to hear about that. FWIW, Parlee has a lifetime guarantee against manufacturing defects.
comparableGiant Joe
Mar 14, 2003 8:19 PM
Franchise
Thanks
Got Axed on Friday the 13th about 6 months ago,bad luck hell no ,GOOD LUCK got me out of the SF Bay area(to many people for me) and ridding alot more and the list can go on.
Anyway in my field of employment you get axed alot which I kind of like.
And for my Calfee It was A nice upgrade from my 10 year Trek 2300 and It got me ridding more.
Great to hear that about the Lt guarantee on the Parlee makes It that more tempting to buy one.I see Parlee updated their website since the last time I visited,still could use some more info,but It sounds like he has his hands full making somr nice ridding frames.I wonder how long the wait time for frame.
Joe
comparableFranchise
Mar 15, 2003 9:34 AM
Joe,

Glad to hear everything is working out. It could be worse. Right now, I am buried in my job as well as school, and I find little time to ride.

If you have any questions, I heard that Bob Parlee is the one that actually answers his phone calls. So, I'm sure he could answer and questions you may have. The wait time, per my team mate, for a Parlee is approximately 6-8 weeks. Each one is made to order.

Franchise
comparableTraveller
Mar 14, 2003 9:07 PM
I think it's lifetime from manufacturer defects. Also, a custom Parlee (only Z1 is customized) is cheaper than its euivalent Calfee (D'fly).

-Traveller
re: Calfee or Parlee? neither way too overpriced!CORONADO FLYER
Mar 14, 2003 9:21 PM