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advice: training for and riding 24 hour event? (MV24)(6 posts)

advice: training for and riding 24 hour event? (MV24)JS Haiku Shop
Mar 12, 2003 8:14 AM
last year i considered the MV24, but did some other rides instead (doubles and the 6-Gap).

this year i'm scheduling around it, and will start to train specifically for it after the late May 600k brevet.

MV24 starts at 6 AM on a Saturday in late May and covers long, straight, mostly flat roads in New Baden, IL. the recent IL 200k brevet passed through/around New Baden, and the roads were unremarkable. aside from chip & seal surfaces, wind, and gravel-laden corners, i'm thinking it's a mind-numbing, head-down, long ride.

PSV recommended, and allowed leap-frog for day loop (53 miles), follow for night loop (12 miles). i'm considering PSV hand-off 1/2 into day loop for 2 loops, and PSV handoff at start only for night loop (no follow). this would allow me to "ride light". come to think of it, though, i don't have 12 hours of decent lighting...another hurdle.

I do have sufficient gear and clothing, and several appropriate road bikes. rouding up a 2-person PSV/handoff crew would be no problem.

so, big mileage sickos, aside from "riding lots", "miles, miles, miles", dark riding, and doing extended (time) rides in training, what other advice or suggestions for the ride, and for training & preparation?

and, considering i'm a 16-19 mph average rider over 30-200 miles (solo), don't stop much, and am ok fueling so far up to about 12 hours, what kind of miles (ballpark) can i expect to cover?


sorry, make that date "Saturday in late August" nmJS Haiku Shop
Mar 12, 2003 8:19 AM
nutrition and comfortDougSloan
Mar 12, 2003 8:35 AM
Gotta nail down your nutrition and comfort. You are probably in shape enough if you can fide a double comfortably. The rest is about keeping fueled and comfortable.

You must find a nutrition routine that works for you. Experiment on long rides. Treat every ride over 50 miles like your event, in that you eat and drink like you expect to go 400 miles. In other words, if you bonk at all or feel dehydrated at the end of 80 miles, you're not doing it right. Those problems can be pushed further and further into the ride, but at some point they become mission killers. So, I suggest start figuring out right now what works, and then test and retest on every long ride. If you haven't already, e-mail Steve Born.

Figure out what works for comfort, too, mostly aerobar position, saddle, and feet -- points of contact. Again, if you are hurting at 80 miles, you need to fix something.

Do some long rides at your expect race pace. Theoretically, if you can ride 200 miles at 20 mph, you should be able to ride 400 at the same pace, if you have figured out the nutrition and comfort. You reach a steady-state.

I think that event allows drafting, right? If so, your speeds will be much higher if you can stay with groups or at least one other rider and not blow up from going too fast. If so, work on group riding, too.

Be glad to help more, if you want.

something else, logisticsDougSloan
Mar 12, 2003 9:08 AM
Get all your logistics figured out well ahead of the race, so you are not scrambling around at the last minute. Get the crew arranged, with alternates, crew vehicle outfitted per the rules (flashing lights, racks, signage, etc.), spare parts, tools, lights, reflective tape, food for you and crew (yes, they have to eat, too), maps, clothing for any possible weather, etc. Make a list of what you need to do now, and get it done asap. Then, test your equipment well before the event.

This will allow you to focus on your body and the event as it gets close, you won't be up all night the night before the event trying to get your flashing lights to work.

From Norder
Mar 12, 2003 9:32 AM
Preparing for your first 24 hour ultra:
thanks!JS Haiku Shop
Mar 14, 2003 7:08 AM
i'm sure more questions will come up as it approaches.

i've read the reviews for the past 3 years from the UMCA website, and also talked via e-mail with a couple riders from the last 2 years. seems the reactions are mixed--good event, but often bad traffic areas, gravel in turns that could have/should have been removed, event run by a non-rider lacking insight, etc.--but overall an ok event. i think it's borderline to go into this thing forewarned. so be it.

thanks again!