|Question about US Pro Criteriums||Kristin|
Mar 11, 2003 7:40 AM
|Since there is a "championship" then I'm assuming there is a series of competitions leading up to the the championship--which occurs just around the corner from where I sit now. I've only been to two races, and at each of these only US teams competed. Are the Pro Criteriums limited to only US teams? If not, are the races held only in the US or all around the world? How many races in the series? How are the teams selected/invited/ranked? And how do they progress to the next race?
|Cycling championships are different than the ball sports.||triple shot espresso|
Mar 11, 2003 8:13 AM
|I used to live in Lisle and loved having that race right there, it's one of the best on the circuit. There is no "series" for the championships and from what I understand any Pro can show up regardless of nationality. In fact the race is often won by a foreigner but the title of Pro US crit champ goes to the first US citizen across the line. The teams do not have to be american teams but the euros don't have much interest in the race unless they have a big name US rider on their squad and even then they are generally more interested in the road race national championships. I'm not even sure if european countries contest a pro crit championship.|
|..also, UCI points and money draw better fields. nm||Spunout|
Mar 11, 2003 8:54 AM
|So is it just a random race? Why call it a Grand Prix then? nm||Kristin|
Mar 11, 2003 10:03 AM
|If you like that race........||MR_GRUMPY|
Mar 11, 2003 9:08 AM
|If you enjoyed that race, you should go out to the National Championship U-23 race in Elgin. It's circuit race with some good climbs up from the river. It's on the 5th or 6th of July.|
|Did you see the 2001 race?||Kristin|
Mar 11, 2003 11:44 AM
|God what a good race. It was the first time I'd ever seen a criterium, so I couldn't really appreciate what I was seeing at the time, but I've read a number of reports from the day and hope I can see a race that exciting again.
All the pre-race niceties indicated that the field would remain together until the last few laps. Appearantly this is how it's always been done before. But Saturn must have had different plans. Even as a complete novice, I could tell that they were in control from early on. With 20 laps to go, a successful sprint created 12 man break away with some teams competely unrepresented. Saturn had 4 men in the lead group and 5 more sucessfully blocking the trailing pack with a 45 second gap. Jullian Dean made an valiant attempt to bridge accross, but was left in no mans land for over 10 laps. Ouch. I'll tell you what, not many people remember the last 3 laps of the race, but few will forget cheering Dean on as he worked his a$$ off to make it up front. And as if the plot weren't thick enough already, there was a little glich with the lap counter. The final lap was posted one lap too early, and I believe there were two finish line sprints that day.
GregR sent me a report that was really well written. I believe it was from Keith Alber's diary, though it may have been Dean's. Anyway, I lost that email and can't find the report through google. Does anyone know where I can find it? Here are two other reports from the race:
If you missed the race and want to read about it, there
John Lieswyn's diary:
|I mised the 2001 and 2002 races.||MR_GRUMPY|
Mar 11, 2003 12:34 PM
|Both years, I was out doing 4 hour training rides in the morning. All my friends were too tired to go, so I just stayed home. I had done the race back in 99, so I knew how hard that last turn was. There is nothing like going through a turn a 35 MPH to put the fear of God in you.
That was before they filled up half the time with all of that skating. (Sorry Rollerbladers)
|And don't forget the handcycle races too. nm||Kristin|
Mar 11, 2003 12:44 PM
|I don't mind those.||MR_GRUMPY|
Mar 11, 2003 1:32 PM
|I don't mind races for disabled people. I'm still impressed from when I went to Masters Nationals back in 2000. They had the National championships for disabled riders at the same time. Women and Men, short an arm or leg, could ride pretty fast. I found it hard to believe how fast they could do a crit with only a right arm.... Wow.|
|I hate to keep harping on this, but I still don't get it. Champion of what?||Kristin|
Mar 11, 2003 1:26 PM
|If there is no series, what are they a champion of? Just a bike race in Downers Grove, IL? What makes this race important enough that pro's will show up at all? (Somehow I'm guessing it involves money, booty and podium girls.) What are the rules to enter? If I showed up with my 22# DeBernardi Aelle and signed meself up for the women's elite category, would they let me race? Scary thought--though I could supply endless entertainment in the form of large scale crashes. And I could even bring a black cat along in my knap-sack. If I managed to pass and cross in front of anyone, they'd gain an instant case of bad luck.
Lastly, do teams "send" riders to these crits or is it strickly a personal choice? I am guessing its a team event, since they arrive with full support.
Oh, wait! I bet its all for a jersey. You know, I could buy a really nice jersey at performancebikes.com for $75 and I don't have to ride in a fast circle for 2 hours to get it.
|I hate to keep harping on this, but I still don't get it. Champion of what?||MR_GRUMPY|
Mar 11, 2003 1:43 PM
|You could do the race in the citizen women catagory, or you could get a one day licence and race it as a Cat 4 women. The National Pro Championship is a Very big deal. It's like winning the Super Bowl and the Indy 500.|
Mar 11, 2003 2:02 PM
|To get into the Superbowl you must win in a certain number of scheduled games against various teams in your league. To get into the Indy 500 you must meet a number of pre-req's including races won and time trials. To win the National Pro Championships you just need to be a US citizen and cross the line first? (Oh yeah and go around 60 times.)|
|What is so hard to understand?||TJeanloz|
Mar 11, 2003 2:17 PM
|Downers Grove hosts the USPro Criterium Championships. The Professional National Criterium Championship for the United States is awarded to the top US finisher. To be eligible to race in the event, your team needs to be registered as a UCI Division I, II, or III professional team. So only professionals may enter. It's not like every amatuer wahoo can just jump in the field and have a good time. So, to win the National Pro Championships, it is the same as almost every other sport -- you need to beat every other US professional who enters the race.|
Mar 11, 2003 2:21 PM
|I asked this as a person who knows nothing about bike races. I did not know that one needed to be a member of a UCI Div 1, 2 or 3 pro team. That is why I asked. Geesh...it was like pulling teeth too. Thanks for the answer.|
Mar 11, 2003 2:19 PM
|Just like other "One Day" races. Why do people want to win Milan san Remo? Why do they try, year after year after year? Why do they kill themselves to win?
Some races are just "Special". Most of the racers that line up at Downers Grove would give one of their ears just to win.
For some people, It's the National Pro Championships, for others, it's the Tour de Industrial Park.