|So how bad is 0 standover clearnace? + Asking price ??||Kristin|
Mar 10, 2003 11:33 AM
|Okay, so the Trek Beast is a little tall. With zero seatpost, my pedal reach is fine. And I won't actually hurt myself dismounting. Things are just...close quarters.
Also, how much do you think I could sell the little darlin' for if I tuned 'er up? The tires are rotted, but I picked up a couple of X1's at Performance for $5/each. And it needs brake work and a good scrub down. Otherwise, its in perfect condition.
|Zero standover or zero seatpost?||Fez|
Mar 10, 2003 2:50 PM
|If you are talking STANDOVER, road requires little, mtn requires more. If you are getting zero SEATPOST, drop this bike and run away from it. OK just kidding. How about sell it for what you paid for it.
How could you get on/off the bike if it had Zero Seatpost? I would imagine it would be tricky and involve tilting the bike quite a bit.
Mar 10, 2003 3:42 PM
|I don't know what you mean about needing to tilt the bike to get onto it--I'm not so old that I can't get my leg 82 cm off the ground!!
Okay, yes, the bike is too big, but I've never been one to let go of an idea quickly. So, yeah, I'll resell it. I doubt I'll get my money back though. I paid $30, and I need to put about $20 into it...the brakes REALLY need doing and the tires are cracked badly. So my only question is can I sell it for $50? That will not even include my time spend. Next time I'll be a little more patient in selecting my beater. :)
Mar 10, 2003 4:23 PM
|What about stoplights? You have to be able to straddle the bike while you wait. If you can't straddle it, then the tilt comes in.
Otherwise you would have to dismount the bike while you are waiting for stoplight and then whip your leg over top tube with a running start once the light turns green.
Seriously, whenever I shop for a bike, I take a portable tape measure with me and measure everything myself. Never trust what people tell you and never believe the sticker on the frame indicating size. Both can be wrong sometimes. And looks can be deceiving also.
Wouldn't it be easier to just take a $30 "loss" on this one?
I wouldn't spend the extra $20 just so that I could break even, cuz you could actually lose your entire $50 if no one buys it.
You could donate it to charity and take a deduction for it. And maybe a guy with longer legs will get some utility out of it.
|No. Noooo. I have zero clearance, not negative clearance||Kristin|
Mar 10, 2003 5:41 PM
|I can straddle the bike, I'm just....'er close with the bike, that's all. Oh, nevermind. Like I said, I won't get injured or anything...not even at lights.|
|Ride it on the stand in the winter.||dzrider|
Mar 11, 2003 6:05 AM
|You won't have to worry about jumping off quickly (stand over height) or panic stops (brakes). You do want to stay in shape riding indoors, seeing nothing new and getting nowhere, don't you?|
|re: So how bad is 0 standover clearnace? + Asking price ??||carcass|
Mar 10, 2003 11:09 PM
|There really is nothing wrong with zero clearance most of the time. Consider these circumstances:
1) Getting on the bike
The bike is well tilted over, you throw a leg over it (from behind) and clip into the opposite pedal. As soon as you push off to go, you are seated on the saddle and have never come very close to the top tube.
Unclip one side, and place a foot down. I would guess that many people do not even bother to get off of the saddle, they just put a tip-toe down to touch the pavement. Again, not even close to the saddle.
Alternate method is to unclip one side, and tilt bike to the side while some weight is on clipped in pedal. The bike will be well tilted over at this point, so standover is not too much an issue
Another method is to stop and unclip both pedals, and straddle the vertical bike. I hardly ever see this happen unless a bunch of guys are just standing around chatting on their bikes. If this is the method that you use when stopping, maybe you should get a smaller bike.
Same as the second stopping method, but unclip the opposite pedal also, and throw your leg backwards off of the bike.
I would not put too much emphasis on stand-over height, especially when dealing with a cheap commuter. If anything, the larger bike will allow higher handlebars, and therefore, a more comfortable ride.
I have a feeling that most people could ride a bike that is an inch higher than their inseam without it ever being an issue. Hey, young kids that ride their older brothers/sisters bike do it all of the time. If you told them that they couldn't ride the bike because it was too big for them, they would probably wonder what you were talking about.
My advice is to just forget that there even is such an 'issue' as standover, and go ride the bike. If you find that given the way you ride your bike, you are constantly getting too close, then you will know what to do.